how shady or legit is the NFL ?

[Crying Ramtard]

http://spaces.covers.com/blog/Maximu...or-Profit.html

http://thefixisin.net/nfl.html

I'm not betting my farm on how true this is but it makes a lot of sense to me. The NFL is an entertainment business and can bend a games outcome when they so choose.

So during a game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and the San Diego Chargers the Steelers were favored by 3. Nearly 70 percent of the betting public was on Pittsburgh, with a reported $100 million in potential earnings. The score with less than a minute to go, 11-10 Pittsburgh and SD with the ball. After an errant lateral gets knocked away by Troy Polamalu, he scoops it and scores. The score is now 17-10, there is no time left, all teams head to the locker room, fans go to cash their tickets.

After several minutes of debate, the refs overturn the call, restoring a meaningless TD off the board making the final score 11-10, the Steelers win, the public loses. What I found to be most odd about it is the league's explanation of a "forward pass". The pass was ruled forward although it is obvious it was a backwards lateral. When I got home, I starting thinking that things were just to good to be true.

Sportscenter reported the money lost in Vegas and almost joked about it. They were literally laughing. So after this bad beat, I held around some serious thoughts about the legitimacy of pro football.

An opportunity came up in my graduate school where I was to write my project on any topic I was to choose. So I chose researching the "Showbiz manipulations of the NFL". I picked up several books including Dan Moldea's "Interference: How Organized Crimes Influence Professional Football", Brian Touhy's "The Fix Is In" , Roger L. Martins "Fixing the Game". I checked out several TV Marketing books from the college library and also several TV Business books.

I utilized my rights under the Freedom of Information Act passed by President Lyndon Johnson in 1966 to access over 40 years of FBI files on the NFL although some information was redacted. Here's what I found:

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Contrary to popular belief and to what he NFL wants you to think, there have been fixed games in league history. On page 308 of Dan Moldea's book "Interference" he lists over 70 NFL games that have been fixed and includes the names of the 2 referees involved in fixing those games. He also lists interviews with NFL HOF players most notably KC Chiefs QB Len Dawson. He, in detail with documented facts supported by FBI documents, has interviews with NFL players and known gambling associates to uncover massive game fixing in the league. He also notes, with evidence, throughout the book that no fewer than 26 NFL team owners have or have had continuous and developing relationships with the gambling world, most notably the Rooney, Bidwill, and Mara families all getting their starts as Bookmakers for established mid-west crime families and buying their NFL franchises with moneys earned from gambling. So that in and of itself is a hypocrisy number 1 on the NFL's "lilly white" reputation.

NFL Referees are part-time employees of the NFL. They are not employees of any team nor do they get paid anywhere close to the sums of NBA refs. NFL refs make between $25K to $70K per season. They work for the league and do what the league tells them to do. They are not there for "the integrity of the game". Referees, unlike other sports, are bound by NFL mandated gag orders which prevent them from talking to the media.

2. The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".

This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $6 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."

There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.

Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.

The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common amongst professional sports leagues.

Robert Kraft and John Mara are two of the most business savvy and highly respected NFL owners. Kraft is in charge of the NFL TV broadcast committee and also leads all television negotiations for the NFL. Kraft also is on the board of directors for Viacom, the parent company of CBS, one of NFL's broadcasters. This past Spring, Robert Kraft negotiated a record TV deal for the NFL which will result in $24 Billion in revenue with CBS, FOX, ESPN and NBC. Kraft and Mara also brought both parties to the table and led all negotiations in ending the lockout.

Atlanta Falcons owner Arthur Blank was interviewed saying "It is predetermined that these two teams would be here, I wish my team was selected to be in the Super Bowl one day, but these two gentlemen deserve it". And the Giants posted themselves as victors before the game, the NFL claimed it was "an overzealous employee".

The 49ers need a new stadium, with the same players as Mike Singletary, and a Alex Smith in a contract year, the 49ers post a 13-3 record and make it to the NFC Championship. But what they don't tell you is how the stadium deal is structured. 80% of the funding comes from Bank of America and US Bank. 20% financed by the State of California using tax dollars.

The 49ers have pledged to pay back the State in 5 seasons with help from revenue sharing from NFL owners. What better way to pay someone back quickly than with packed stadiums and extra playoff game revenue.

On MNF they found themselves in a blackout. Steelers safety Ryan Clark said "it was to show the league they need a new stadium and the 49ers caused the blackout". Why would he say this if shadiness wasn't common practice? You can view his opinions here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9...off-his-rocker.

Ravens players complained that the 2007 Patriots were " being handed games by refs" in their quest for perfection. And I have over 40 years of information on NFL business dealings and how these owners "miraculously" found themselves holding the Lombardi Trophy.

Let's look at the 2011 season and see how television ratings connected with some of the league's most important games, and quickly view how the referees controlled games.

Week 1: NFL Announces ESPN will pay $1billion per game of MNF through the 2021 season. In a tribute to 9/11 20 million + viewers tuned in as the Jets mounted a magic 14 point comeback over the Cowboys. Number of penalties called the Jets = 0

Week 2: The NFL's rule changes make for a more exciting game as scoring is way up. Much like the AFL days of the 60's, 72% of the games went over the total and TV ratings are now through the roof. The league emphasises "the year of the QB".

Week 3: Packers vs Bears: The Bears return a punt return for a TD which would've ultimately allowed them to cover the spread. Instead a fantom holding call overturned the TD. It was the 10th penalty of the game for the Bears vs. 1 penalty for the Packers. You can see the play here: http://youtu.be/_w-pXfjbYHk

Week 6: The Beginning of the Tim Tebow Era. Tim Tebow has a HUGE, and I mean HUGE Christian following. The guy can't hit a barn, but a decent athlete. Yet as the third string QB he is thrust into the starting role and the team magically "changes the entire offense" in a matter of weeks to suit him? Tebow was the number 1 jersey seller for the league without even stepping foot on the field. It was time to make him a star and they did ripping off several "magical" victories with poultry statistics. These teams were handing them games. If you didn't notice this, all I need to say it two words : Marion Barber. All the while the NFL is forcing religion down our throats with God's quarterback.

Week 7: The Jags are close to a sale, the possible new owners just need one more hint of encouragement to prevent buyers remorse. In come the Ravens. After the Saints destruction of the Colts on SNF. Vegas was in trouble. ESPN was in trouble because no one was going to watch this snore fest. The Ravens didn't get a first down until late in the fourth quarter and the Jags win with 4 FG's. Sale complete, Vegas wins. You lose.

[Crying Ramtard]

No it isn't. You don't understand math or what a "fact" is.

when you finally learn what I already know,you will realize what a foolish statement this is.

And there's your Super Bowl curse in action. Think Drew Stanton is the next Tom Brady? He'll have to be if the Super Bowl-hosting Cardinals are going to go that far. Methinks that's a bit of a stretch.

Another stretch of the imagination came in the form of the woeful NY Jets (led by convicted felon Michael Vick) beating the Pittsburgh Steelers. This is the exact sort of game that should make ever NFL fan stop and think, "How is this possible?" Does "parity" really allow for such a result? Not in the real world. This is the sort of outcome that fills my inbox with questions of "How close does the NFL work with Las Vegas and the bookies?" It's also why taking a contrarian stance betting-wise is more profitable than following the "squares."

Speaking of the NFL, did you know that it's on a pace to break the record for the most 10+ point comebacks in a single season? Does that hurt TV ratings? Of course not, as the NFL trumpets under its headline "NFL Games 26 of 30 most-watched shows this fall": "At the halfway point of the 2014 NFL season, fans are tuning into NFL games in record numbers for good reason…they have been captivated by the fantastic contests and come-from-behind victories. Three teams have overcome deficits of 21 or more points to win games, on pace to break the single-season record. The record for the most such wins in one season is four, which has happened three times (1999, 2011 and 2013)."

Unfortunately, not everything is so hunky-dory for the NFL. The league along with NBC is having a bit of a problem selling out Super Bowl commerical time. I was thinking of buying a 30-second spot this year to promote my books, but when I read that the asking price went up $500,000 to $4.5 million, I realized my advertising budget would've been completely blown by February 1st.

Oh, yeah, and if you didn't see this Deadspin piece about the "investigation" into the 49ers' Ray McDonald and his domestic abuse charges, you should. Guilty or not, it's another great example of how NFL Security really operates.

http://deadspin.com/da-memo-in-ray-m...-49-1656872780

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

you are the one who doesn't understand. For it to happen one time might be possible but you cant beat those incredible odds 4 times in a row.
and then constantly have all the other incredible Manning and Harbaugh brother's endings etc. That would have to mean the NFL works in a separate reality and universe from everyone else. I do in fact know how logic and math work in this context. Just because someone can argue its possible doesn't make it so or that it should be.

But then, what do I know? 16x32 does equal 512, though the relevance of that piece of datum remains an utter mystery.

[Crying Ramtard]

Originally Posted by splatbass

No it isn't. You don't understand math or what a "fact" is.

In the early 90s the NFC was the dominant conference by a mile. Buffalo was the best team in the AFC, but probably the top 5 teams in the NFC were better than them. It is perfectly logical that they could win the AFC Championship 4 years in a row, and lose the SB all 4 of those years to much superior teams. It is actually surprising that they came close to beating the Giants in one of those games because the Giants were a better team.

From 1982-1997 only ONE AFC team won a SB. The NFC was that much better then.

that statement is based on nothing other then you being told it and you believing it. A team winning and losing can be manipulated and then a story made up to explain why. Saying a team of individuals is more dominant then 15 or 16 others 4 years in a row is a stupid premise. Since that dominant team didn't go undefeated during that time...I guess those games were just dumb luck,huh?

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

you are the one who doesn't understand. For it to happen one time might be possible but you cant beat those incredible odds 4 times in a row.
and then constantly have all the other incredible Manning and Harbaugh brother's endings etc. That would have to mean the NFL works in a separate reality and universe from everyone else. I do in fact know how logic and math work in this context. Just because someone can argue its possible doesn't make it so or that it should be.

I understand perfectly. You have no clue at all about probabilities.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

that statement is based on nothing other then you being told it and you believing it.

I REMEMBER IT, dumbass. This is an undisputed FACT (and the proper use of the word "fact"). The NFC dominated in the 80s and early 90s. Most of the SBs were blowouts for the NFC.

Why the hell would the NFL want to have a bunch of boring blowouts in a row? Only a complete dumbass would believe that.

[Sorter]

Given how many forums ram29jackson posts this on, I'm a little confused as to why this isn't considered spam (e.g. Chris616).



It is fun to read though. Scary, but fun.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by ram29jackson

you are the one who doesn't understand. For it to happen one time might be possible but you cant beat those incredible odds 4 times in a row.

Those incredible odds? You mean the incredible odds that the better team won? What the **** is incredible about that?

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Sorter

Given how many forums ram29jackson posts this on, I'm a little confused as to why this isn't considered spam (e.g. Chris616).



It is fun to read though. Scary, but fun.

Watching ram29jackson make a fool of himself over and over is like watching a train wreck. You don't want to look, but you can't help yourself.

[Hootie]

He should be perma banned

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

He should be perma banned

He is the most entertaining poster here. Crazy is fun to watch.

[Dayze]

rams29jackson is to sanity, as Lou Holtz is to athleticism.

[redfan]

Not gonna read this whole thread, but I'm curious: Are the players complicit in fixing these games? (in rams29jackson's world)
I'll hang up and listen, thanks.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Those incredible odds? You mean the incredible odds that the better team won? What the **** is incredible about that?

The funny thing is he doesn't understand probability. What a team did one year has no bearing on any subsequent year.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

He should be perma banned

Where's Phobia when you need him?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by redhed

Not gonna read this whole thread, but I'm curious: Are the players complicit in fixing these games? (in rams29jackson's world)
I'll hang up and listen, thanks.

In short, yes. A little expanded, . . . this and so much more.

ramtard thinks everything you hear and see that makes money is faked for those making it. Stock markets, medicine, sports, elections, natural disasters, the list goes on.

I mean, have you ever actually BEEN to Sandy Hook? Who knows if Iraq even exists outside a Hollywood sound stage?