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Old 11-10-2014, 10:28 AM  
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Let's talk about the Seahawks.

We are so close, and yet so very, very far. It's hard to think that the Chiefs still have mountains to climb, seeing as we're the #1 Wild Card team right now, but keep this in mind:
  • We've only won 6 games, and
  • Of the remaining 7 games on the schedule, five of them are murderer's row.
So that means, for the Chiefs to even have a fair chance at a playoff spot (9 wins), they need to win ONE of those immensely difficult games. In order to have an excellent chance at a playoff spot (10 wins), they'll need to win TWO.

Of those five games, few are more daunting than the game we have lined up this week at home against the Seattle Seahawks.

We know they are insanely talented on both offense and defense. But the biggest reason this is going to be a very difficult game: they just beat the Giants by rushing for 350 yards.

350.

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That is an actual thing that happened. Now factor in the fact that the Chiefs (a.) like to go into subpackages three-quarters of the game and (b.) are generally a lousy team against the run, and it's clear that this week is an uphill battle.

At least it's at home.

The heart and soul of everything the Seahawks do is Russell Wilson. There are few non-AFCW QBs we know better than Wilson on ChiefsPlanet. We know he's super athletic. He's extremely smart. He's tough and unshakeable. And he's got a fantastic arm that is very accurate. Wilson, however, is also extremely difficult to get to -- his OL is pedestrian, but his movement in the pocket is ballet-like, he always keeps his feet moving and can elude pressure better than every other QB in the league. He is the best in the NFL at eluding pressure. There is nobody better.

We're also familiar, are we not, with Mr. Marshawn Lynch. The Chiefs need to start Vickerson on the DL, and play Mays at ILB, because if we don't, Seahawks' OL and Lynch himself will chew us the **** up. I honestly don't know how we stop the Seahawks run game, but that's why I keep you guys around, right? The Seahawks have really good RBs in backup roles. Robert Turbin is basically a poor man's Marshawn Lynch himself, and Christine Michael is a terrific athlete. The run game is monstrous, and it's everything Seattle does brilliantly.

At WR, they are mercifully less imposing. They've released Percy Harvin, but they've got four good B-listers in Doug Baldwin, Jermaine Kearse, Paul Richardson, and Ricardo Lockette. None of these guys is "take over the game" great. But all of them are shifty route runners, and Wilson's movement in the pocket always buys them time. Zach Miller is another B-lister talent at TE, another guy who will make you pay on a few downs if you aren't on top of him.

The offensive line is strong on the left side. Russell Okung is an excellent LT when he's healthy, and James Carpenter is a former 1st rounder who's found a good home at guard. Max Unger is a tough center. I'm not crazy about their talent on the right side of the line: JR Sweazy and Justin Britt have been beat like drums a few times this year. Britt himself is a rookie at right tackle. Many Mizzou fans here know him very well, and he gets to line up for 60 snaps across from Justin ****ing Houston.

So that is an imposing offense that provides many riddles for the Chiefs defense.

As for the Chiefs offense, most notably, the Chiefs offensive line, well the hits just keep on coming.

After wrestling with the Rams, Jets, and Bills defensive lines, now they get a Super Bowl winning defensive line that ONCE AGAIN creates an unfair amount of pressure. Welcome to the NFL.

It's not quite what it was with Gus Bradley running the show, but it's pretty ****ing close. Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril with Bruce Irvin at OLB is as lethal a set of edgerushers as the Chiefs will face all year. The first two in particular are capable of putting up multi-sack games, and Irvin is capable of being a terror off the edge. Up the gut, Brandon Mebane has been a revelation over the past several years, and while he's a step down from Marcell Dareus and Kyle Williams (thank the lord), he's still a block of granite on running downs. They also start Tony McDaniel, who does a solid job, and they have Kevin Williams backing them up at DT -- yes, the Kevin Williams you're thinking of.

It gets worse, because the second level of the defense is very stout as well. I've already mentioned Irvin, but K.J. Wright and Malcolm Smith came up huge in the Super Bowl (Smith won MVP). Bobby Wagner at MLB is a reliable player as well.

And of course, the Seahawks have the NFL's best secondary. I hope you guys all had fun watching Bowe this week, because he's gone this week. Richard Sherman is a Top Three corner, and specializes on large, physical WRs like Bowe. You can bet that Sherman will read those back-shoulder throws and make Alex Smith pay if he tries that shit on him.

The good news is the rest of the CBs on Seahawks roster can be passed on, SO IT WOULD BE REALLY AWESOME IF DONNIE AVERY MAGICALLY HEALED THIS WEEK. Byron Maxwell, Tharold Simon, Marcus Burley... these are not people the Chiefs need to gameplan around.

Of course, the reason the Seahawks have the best secondary in the league is because they have the best safety duo in the NFL. Kam Chancellor is a 230 lbs punishing strong safety, and while he isn't a world beater in coverage, he can blow up run games. And Earl Thomas is the best safety in the NFL -- he's an elite, 4.3 speed deep single high safety who takes away the deep game. Not that he needs it against Alex Smith.

It is crazy how far this Chiefs team has come. But there is no doubt that it has a long, long way to go. This Seahawks game is going to be as stiff as challenges get.
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Old 11-10-2014, 12:51 PM   #61
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:00 PM   #62
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:01 PM   #63
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Beast is definately the heart and soul of that offense and even that entire team. Most seacock fans will tell you that the entire team rallies around him and he elevates the play of even the defense. Wilson can **** you up with his legs, but there whole thing has been pounding the ball with beast.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:13 PM   #64
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Wilson couldn't get the passing game to work when they had Percy Harvin in there. How well is Harvin playing now that he is with the Jets? He never even came close to breaking 100 receiving yards with Wilson as his QB. What does that say about Wilson since many of you are so apt to blame the lack of WR production on the QB?

As for the Superbowl win, you do realize that the Seahawks had the best defense of the decade in that SB run right?

Wilson's stats in the playoffs for that SB run since you're so quick to crap on Lynch:

Vs NO: 9-18, 103 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs He was the main reason for that win right?

Vs SF: 16-25, 215 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs

Vs Donkeys: 18-25, 206 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs

Lynch's numbers?

Vs NO: 28 carries, 140 yards, 2 TDs Without Lynch, they lose this game, plain and simple.

Vs SF (incredibly tough defense to run on): 22 carries, 109 yards, 1 TD Very few RBs ever crack the 100 yard mark and go for nearly 5 yards a pop against the 49ers, to do it in a playoff game makes it even more impressive.

Vs Donkeys: 15 carries, 39 yards, 1 TD Seahawks dominated this game on all levels as we all know. They focused everything on stopping Lynch in the run game.

So tell me again how Lynch wasn't the heart of that offense and how Wilson is?
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:20 PM   #65
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Playing away, Beast is a Sea-sparrow...

He only rushes for 49 yards a game average on the road, receptions average 23 yards a game...

Seahawks only come up with a hair over 1 sack a game on the road...

Hawks 4-1 at home, 2-2 on the road, their only victories coming at Washington and Carolina....

What do they beat you with?

Wilson averages 283 yards per game total offense on the road...
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:27 PM   #66
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Wilson couldn't get the passing game to work when they had Percy Harvin in there. How well is Harvin playing now that he is with the Jets? He never even came close to breaking 100 receiving yards with Wilson as his QB. What does that say about Wilson since many of you are so apt to blame the lack of WR production on the QB?



As for the Superbowl win, you do realize that the Seahawks had the best defense of the decade in that SB run right?



Wilson's stats in the playoffs for that SB run since you're so quick to crap on Lynch:



Vs NO: 9-18, 103 yards, 0 TDs, 0 INTs He was the main reason for that win right?



Vs SF: 16-25, 215 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs



Vs Donkeys: 18-25, 206 yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs



Lynch's numbers?



Vs NO: 28 carries, 140 yards, 2 TDs Without Lynch, they lose this game, plain and simple.



Vs SF (incredibly tough defense to run on): 22 carries, 109 yards, 1 TD Very few RBs ever crack the 100 yard mark and go for nearly 5 yards a pop against the 49ers, to do it in a playoff game makes it even more impressive.



Vs Donkeys: 15 carries, 39 yards, 1 TD Seahawks dominated this game on all levels as we all know. They focused everything on stopping Lynch in the run game.



So tell me again how Lynch wasn't the heart of that offense and how Wilson is?

What does Harvin have to do with anything? He's always been more of a gadget player than a pure receiver. Wilson made it to the ****ing Super Bowl throwing to Golden Tate, Doug Baldwin, Jermain Kearse and Zach Miller.

I've never been one to argue that passing yards = great QB play so you're barking up the wrong tree there. Wilson made plays at crucial times in that Super Bowl run. That 4th down strike for the TD against the 49ers and converting a ridiculous amount of passing 3rd downs in the Super Bowl to keep Peyton off the field did more to add to that lead than you'd like to admit.

It's laudable when a 9 year vet goes an entire game without throwing an INT around here but we're lambasting a second year guy for doing the same thing during a Super Bowl run? That's more of your stupid shit.

I think Lynch is definitely the engine of that offense but your attempt to minimize the impact of Wilson is laughable, really. Neither Lynch nor Russell Wilson are the number one contributor to their run last year. It's absolutely the defense in every situation. That was definitely the best pass defense of all time and overall one of the best we've seen as well.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:27 PM   #67
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Seahawks are just a bad road team for one reason or another. They lost to the freaken Rams and lost to the Chargers by 9 points.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:42 PM   #68
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You know what's nice? Stealing the game yesterday means that a loss to Seattle doesn't crush our playoff hopes.

Two good teams but we're at home, and Vegas has us as a 1 point favorite. Seems about right.
This is exactly right.

If we have to lose, losing to a really good NFC team is who you lose to.

That being said, this is a winnable game and we need to bust our ass to win it.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:44 PM   #69
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Again, from their own fans regarding Wilson:

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I'm not saying we can't win. Not every Super Bowl champion has had a good passing game and RW isn't always mediocre at passing. But W/L isn't necessarily a reflection on total ability. We have the top ranked run D and O, that's pretty freakin' special. You don't necessarily need Peyton Manning to win a SB with a team like that.

But I'm not ready to crown RW as some QB prodigy when he struggles throwing the ball. It's simply a fact that he has had trouble.
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You know who else has a winning record in the NFL? Tim Tebow. I'm not saying that Wilson is Tebow, because obviously Wilson is a much better passer.

Winning is all fine and dandy, but when you're struggling against the trash of the NFL something has got to change, and quick. We cannot expect to win against the better teams in the NFL with this kind of production in the passing game. Russell Wilson is obviously struggling right now, unless he rights his ship we're going to be in for a rude awakening when we play the likes of the 49ers, the Cardinals etc.
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I know RB's help, but lately Lynch hasn't been utilized like he was last season. I already see a difference with Harvin being gone.

Lynch is a rare breed indeed. And all I'm saying is with Romo being out the D's main focus is to shut down the Cowgirls running game and it worked.

Wilson is my main target at the moment because he has been playing poorly. Someone else pointed out that the O-line has been bad since basically he started yet Wilson has found ways to shine. But lately, that hasn't been the case. I think a lot of pressure is on him and with the D not being as good as last year combined with a ton of injuries is starting to take it's toll.

I see a lot of people pointing the finger at someone else, bad O-line, WR's , OC, and whatever reason anyone can come up with besides blaming Wilson for once. It almost seems Taboo around here to call out Wilson. I'm not doing it just to piss people off, I just call it as I see it. I realize there's a lot of reasons, as I pointed some out, for his poor play, but that's all I'm doing is placing the blame on the team leader.
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Wilson completed a season-low 49 percent of his passes yesterday.

That's not all the receivers fault, not the line, not the play calling. He just seems to be lacking confidence and getting frustrated.

Maybe he needs to get his eyes checked?!!
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Don't you guys normally blame Bevell?

Russell's lack of accuracy is troubling, as it's a very strong part of his game. So something's going on with him that's messing with his mechanics or something.

It can't all be just poor WR play or O-line issues.
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Wow. Post....not the poster...?
RW hasn't looked "right " for most of the 14 season. A post like the above indicates total homerism / un-objective football watching skills and ignorant commenting skillz. RW needs to right his ship. Receivers, especially the tight ends need to catch the dam ball. The OC needs to run the F'ing ball, ALOT. The O line needs to block and do that blocking thing much better on pass plays. And....RW needs to get to the ball accurately, yes ACCURATELY and ON TIME to receivers.

RW is part of the problem this year, why is that taboo to acknowledge? Love the guy and love what he brings to the team, but he isn't perfect and to say so is, well, just ignorant homerism.
A lot more where that came from.
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Old 11-10-2014, 01:53 PM   #71
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Well then....Clearly Kam and Thomas aren't worth their contracts.
Seattle doesn't move their safeties in to linebacking positions like the Chiefs. Their linebackers cover TE's.
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Lynch only had 40 yards in the Super Bowl and Wilson still led that offense to almost 30 offensive points.

Just please stop talking.
The 2014 Seattle Seahawks aren't the same team as the 2013 Seattle Seahawks.

I don't know if it's "Super Bowl Hangover" or the schedule, but they haven't played at the same level consistently throughout the season.
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This is exactly right.

If we have to lose, losing to a really good NFC team is who you lose to.

That being said, this is a winnable game and we need to bust our ass to win it.
I agree. I think this game is going to be a very close game and could go either way....much like the Bills game. They're gonna be focused on stopping JC and we're gonna be focused on stopping Lynch. Neither team has an explosive passing game. So basically who ever wins the Turnover game is gonna win. At least we have homefield advantage.

If we're gonna lose a game this wouldn't be so bad. Yeah...you don't want to lose any games but right now we are fighting for a wild card spot. Yesterday's Bills game and the upcoming Charger's game is more vital as the Wild Card spot may be decided by a tie breaker.
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