Chiefs Let's talk about the Chargers. - Page 4

Direckshun · 10-13-2014, 04:51 AM

There's little doubt they have the league's best QB right now, as Philip Rivers is playing out of his mind. He's doing it with a damn good receiver corps, which features three WRs (Floyd, Allen, Royal) who are fast and run sharp, quick routes, which the Chiefs CBs struggle with, Marcus Cooper especially. And we still don't know what the Chiefs are going to do at the third CB spot to replace Chris Owens -- we might actually be trotting out Phillip Gaines. Yikes.

The biggest reason Rivers is ripping the NFL a new asshole, of course, has been the resurgence of Antonio Gates, who is playing like it's 2008. Gates is uncoverable right now, so it doesn't really matter if we bring Eric Berry back or not.

I don't know anything about the interior of the Chargers' OL, but their bookends of King Dunlap and DJ Fluker are (a.) really good in their own rights, and (b.) benefit from Phillip Rivers' excellent pocket presence and quick release.

The Chargers are banged up at RB, and I don't really know who's going to be starting there. Both Ryan Mathews and Donald Brown are out, so this kid Brandon Oliver has been racking up 100-yard performances both weeks. They've also got Ronnie Brown, and believe it or not, Shaun Draughn is still in the league.

This is the year the Chargers feature a defense every bit as good as their offense. Their DL is monstrous, with Kendall Reyes and Corey Liuget bookending an overachieving Sean Lissemore in the middle.

I like their ILBs more than their OLBs -- Manti Te'o and Donald Butler cover well and hit the line of scrimmage hard. It's a good thing they get a pocket push from Reyes and Liuget, because they have no edge rushers other than Dwight Freeney, who has actually played well despite being on social security.

The CBs are where San Diego is really hurting people. Brandon Flowers, Shareece Wright, and Jason Verrett is a small lineup, but they play hard, cover well, and will erase every WR not named Bowe from Alex's sight.

I have no opinion on Marcus Gilchrist but Eric Weddle is an opportunistic mother****er with a nose for the ball.

Sandy Vagina · 10-13-2014, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thabear04

Is Mays coming back for us.

this is the latest I have seen (from AP)... doesn't look like it yet...

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Joe Mays (wrist): He is on short-term IR but he is "not quite ready yet but he's getting there", according to Reid. Short-term IR players can begin practicing after six weeks and be activated to the roster after eight weeks.

Dunerdr · 10-13-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

this is the latest I have seen (from AP)... doesn't look like it yet...

Stretch that Achilles joe!

ThaVirus · 10-13-2014, 11:00 AM

Mays is a thumper and neither the Chargers or Rams are likely to run wild on us.

Not that I don't want to get Mauga off the field, but I'd rather give him the extra couple weeks to get healthy for later on when we'll truly need him.

Iconic · 10-13-2014, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

If I remember correctly, the Bills were the best at neutralizing TE production last season. I'm not sure what scheme they're running or who usually sticks to the TE but maybe it's a trend?

In either case, I'm not even so much worried about Gates. Rivers WILL rip us a new asshole and it won't matter who's on the receiving end of his passes.

I didn't watch the game but one can assume based off the results that they tried to key in on Gates, and it worked, but that resulted in a lot of man with their shit CB's that the Chargers WR's exploited.

The best way to beat the Chargers is pressure. Dedicate all available resources to getting forced and hurried throws. Their receivers are just too good for us to sit back in coverage- if there ever was a game when we needed Berry this is it- blitz the ever-living shit out of the Chargers suspect line.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-13-2014, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Our o-line may be the worst graded o-line on PFF.

Our d-line is probably one of the lower graded d-lines too.

Manti Teo will be out. Reggie Walker will be out. Brandon Flowers will be out. Melvin Ingram will be out. Shareece Wright will be out (probably).

We will be missing 6-8 starters.

There's no reason why you shouldn't win, except Rivers.

Umm, we've been missing 6-8 starters all year.

**Dave Lane** · 10-13-2014, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

Umm, we've been missing 6-8 starters all year.

But they are a terrible team. Easy win for us.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-13-2014, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

But they are a terrible team. Easy win for us.

Candy Reitard will make a "game" out of Oakland, I guarantee it.

Marcellus · 10-13-2014, 01:03 PM

Whats wrong with Flower's vag now?

Kman34 · 10-13-2014, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 505 Chief

Candy Reitard will make a "game" out of Oakland, I guarantee it.

Like last year???

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-13-2014, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34

Like last year???

He'll find a way.

thabear04 · 10-13-2014, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Whats wrong with Flower's vag now?

Pulled his groin.

ToxSocks · 10-13-2014, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

Berry never could cover Gates (or any other above average tight end) anyway.

The oline is terrible. Worst run blocking line in the NFL and the tackles can't handle speed AT ALL. If you can get some interior pressure from Powe Rivers will struggle majorly.

The D is mostly smoke, mirrors, and scheme. They can't just line up and beat you because they're not that good, but they play decent in their scheme. They're capable of giving up a lot of big plays though because they blitz a lot. Alex Suck will have a lot of opportunities for big plays.

The strength of the chargers is coaching. It's mostly really a geriatric overaged roster they have out there. Worst oline in the NFL, immobile noodle armed QB, slow receivers....no running back.... no pass rush, slow mlbs, - it could easily be a 4-5 win team but McCoy gives Rivers a lot of freedom to call the game and audible and Rivers is smart enough to find matchups he can take advantage of on 3rd down. When they do that and don't make mistakes it can make them (at times) look much better than they really are.

I'm a chargers fan but K.C. should take this one as long as you stop the run on 1st and 2nd down. A Chase Mcdaniels led chiefs team beat up on them in their own house last year (the refs literally gave them the game). The chargers can't handle your outside pass rushers at all (they haven't faced an outside rusher yet as effective as either Hali or Houston) and Rivers will eventually give you a sack fumble.

Fail ass post. You clearly don't know dick about the Chargers.

ToxSocks · 10-13-2014, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

But they are a terrible team. Easy win for us.

The Chargers?

This must be sarcasm.

rabblerouser · 10-13-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic

I didn't watch the game but one can assume based off the results that they tried to key in on Gates, and it worked, but that resulted in a lot of man with their shit CB's that the Chargers WR's exploited.

The best way to beat the Chargers is pressure. Dedicate all available resources to getting forced and hurried throws. Their receivers are just too good for us to sit back in coverage- if there ever was a game when we needed Berry this is it- blitz the ever-living shit out of the Chargers suspect line.

Yep. Plus, Phyllis gets frustrated when he gets knocked around and will start scatter-arming knuckleballs.

ToxSocks · 10-13-2014, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Yep. Plus, Phyllis gets frustrated when he gets knocked around and will start scatter-arming knuckleballs.

This isn't norv's Charger team. Rivers doesn't just "chuck it up" anymore. Times change, your football knowledge needs to change with it.

The Chargers offense is based off of short routes, YAC and getting the ball out as quickly as possible. Their O-Line is a complete wreck, their team has to be the most injured team in the NFL and yet Rivers is still having one of his best seasons of his career.

Despite having the worst O-Line in the NFL, the Chiefs will still struggle to get sacks against Rivers.

10-13-2014, 04:51 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4183447	Let's talk about the Chargers. There's little doubt they have the league's best QB right now, as Philip Rivers is playing out of his mind. He's doing it with a damn good receiver corps, which features three WRs (Floyd, Allen, Royal) who are fast and run sharp, quick routes, which the Chiefs CBs struggle with, Marcus Cooper especially. And we still don't know what the Chiefs are going to do at the third CB spot to replace Chris Owens -- we might actually be trotting out Phillip Gaines. Yikes. The biggest reason Rivers is ripping the NFL a new asshole, of course, has been the resurgence of Antonio Gates, who is playing like it's 2008. Gates is uncoverable right now, so it doesn't really matter if we bring Eric Berry back or not. I don't know anything about the interior of the Chargers' OL, but their bookends of King Dunlap and DJ Fluker are (a.) really good in their own rights, and (b.) benefit from Phillip Rivers' excellent pocket presence and quick release. The Chargers are banged up at RB, and I don't really know who's going to be starting there. Both Ryan Mathews and Donald Brown are out, so this kid Brandon Oliver has been racking up 100-yard performances both weeks. They've also got Ronnie Brown, and believe it or not, Shaun Draughn is still in the league. This is the year the Chargers feature a defense every bit as good as their offense. Their DL is monstrous, with Kendall Reyes and Corey Liuget bookending an overachieving Sean Lissemore in the middle. I like their ILBs more than their OLBs -- Manti Te'o and Donald Butler cover well and hit the line of scrimmage hard. It's a good thing they get a pocket push from Reyes and Liuget, because they have no edge rushers other than Dwight Freeney, who has actually played well despite being on social security. The CBs are where San Diego is really hurting people. Brandon Flowers, Shareece Wright, and Jason Verrett is a small lineup, but they play hard, cover well, and will erase every WR not named Bowe from Alex's sight. I have no opinion on Marcus Gilchrist but Eric Weddle is an opportunistic mother****er with a nose for the ball.
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ThaVirus You gotta kill a few people Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $1782369	Mays is a thumper and neither the Chargers or Rams are likely to run wild on us. Not that I don't want to get Mauga off the field, but I'd rather give him the extra couple weeks to get healthy for later on when we'll truly need him.
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