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FWIW, AC, I am a Hemingway fan and hope he turns out to be really good for this team. Young low-rounders should take a while to develop. This ain't the FFL.
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So, you won't actually do any WORK(looking at tape) but you still think you have something to add to the conversation by being a complete blowhard and stating your opinion with absolutely nothing to back it up but bluster and a douchebag attitude. Congrats, you are now Hamas Jenkins 2.0 |
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Well... Jason Dunn was an excellent blocker at a position where blocking was critical. If you are keeping a receiver on the roster only to block, there's a problem. I would bet Hemingway is still on the team because he's excellent at special teams, a solid blocking receiver on a team that doesn't have good receivers. Agree with everyone here he's probably still on this roster because the options below him aren't much better.
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Hemingway is not a terribly good route runner, he doesn't get separation, and he doesn't have breakaway speed. Moreover, there is no evidence to support that he has great hands. Again, over three years of being in the NFL, he has 17 receptions. Don't you think that a team who was trotting out Frankie Hammond, Donnie Avery, and AJ Jenkins would be looking for improvements out wide? If he could do it, he'd be doing it. Also, he's done nothing to warrant being a decoy, and there is no tactical advantage to making him a decoy. That's a claim without any evidence. It's not like he's good enough to draw a double team. When is Hemingway ever drawing double coverage? He's a WR with a solid build. Every other physical characteristic and skill is either mediocre to below par, aside from his blocking, which is the least important skill a WR can possess.
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you're right, I'm not 'watching tape' about a scrub WR.... no one anywhere gives a shit about him, he's a nobody with no special talent and no production to boot...he has 100 exact replicas of him on rosters around the league and no one gives a shit about them either you have an emotional connection to him, for some reason i genuinely don't care about
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As to his physical attributes... what do you base your opinion on? It's certainly not from his actual combine numbers. I don't think he has breakaway speed but he is plenty fast and regardless of your opinion, if you actually WATCHED the tape he gets separation consistently. I have been "bitchy" because people like you continue to douche up the thread with your typical bluster with no substance. You make ridiculous hyperbolic claims and then act like a tool if anyone asks you to back them. There is ZERO value to that type of "discussion" and you know it. Does it make you feel better about yourself? Seriously, any particular reason being a complete asshole to people is your "thing"? |
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Zero substance to add but a whole ton of attitude and unwarranted ego. |
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Can you post gifs or something of those times he was open AC?
Really, do you think it's a coincidence he only has 17 catches in his career? Do you think that Smith just hates him or something and refuses to pass it to him even though he repeatedly gets open supposedly?
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I doubt Smith "hates" him, if anyone hates him it would be the coaches (I doubt this as well) because he is very rarely asked to actually run routes. The vast majority of his snaps are plays where he is not even a POTENTIAL target. (running plays, screen passes, quick slants, etc). I posted one gif of him open already. I can post more if you'd like. There aren't many from the plays I have analyzed because, as I said, he is very rarely asked to run a route. Of the plays I looked at all but once he was open when asked to be. The one time was on a drag route where he was screened by the crossing WR from the other side then double covered. That entire play was actually a complete abortion. |
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He's no Allen Hurns.
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If you are split wide, you are generally asked to do three things: 1) Get open and catch the ball 2) Act as a decoy to draw coverage away from the intended target 3) Block for a running play We know that he never does 1), and if, as you said, he never does 2), what the hell is his value to a football team? Is there some kind of concerted effort not to throw him the ball? Does Smith prefer to throw to Avery, who has no hands, or Bowe, who gets little-to-no separation, out of spite? Furthermore, please show me where the WCO makes heavy use of a WR who runs short routes and "gets open" but never gets the ball. If he is in fact doing that, and you've done nothing to prove that, what is the functional utility? I haven't seen anything that warrants your praise of him, aside from the fact that he once wore a helmet of a team you rooted for. Again, where is the ridiculous hyperbole? Name all of the #4 and #5 receivers that you feel aren't better than Hemingway and offer actual support for them.
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Again, you attempt to misrepresent what I am saying. If you actually watched the tap you'd see that he is rarely asked to run routes. Period. No one is claiming a conspiracy to not throw to him. He gets thrown to (as much as anyone does) on the few occasions he gets to run a route and get open. Please show where I am praising him? I am stating facts about him and trying to understand what the hell is wrong with him that causes the coaches to use him in this manner. You're scaling back your statement to a much more reasonable one. The ridiculous hyperbole was that there were tons of practice squad guys who would replace him. If so, you may want to let Dorsey know! |
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