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Old 03-28-2014, 10:18 AM  
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Cap should be tight for Chiefs again in '15
For those wondering why the Kansas City Chiefs weren't more aggressive in free agency this year, one reason is that philosophically, the Chiefs would prefer to build their roster through the draft. Another is that they won't have a ton of salary cap room in 2015 to handle big contracts given out now.

The Chiefs have about $125.5 million of salary cap commitments for their 39 players under contract for 2015. The salary limit this year is about $133 million per team and could increase to more than $140 million next year.

But remember a few things. First, their 2015 salary load includes just 39 players. They'll need to add a few more in order to field a team. Second, quarterback Alex Smith and linebacker Justin Houston are scheduled to become unrestricted free agents in 2015 and the Chiefs will need significant salary cap room in order to sign them. Last, this 2015 total doesn't include so-called dead money for players they release this year who won't be with them next year.

So this adds up to a salary cap situation that should be tight again in 2015.

Wide receiver Dwayne Bowe will have another hefty cap number in 2015 at $14 million. If the Chiefs released Bowe before next season, he would still cost them $10.5 million against their cap, so don't look for the Chiefs to cut Bowe next year merely to reap the cost savings.

The Chiefs could realize a cap savings of $9 million next year if they release linebacker Tamba Hali, whose cap number in 2015 is almost $12 million. They would save $7 million against their 2015 cap by releasing cornerback Brandon Flowers. He has a 2015 cap number of $11.5 million.

Other possible places to cut next year include at backup quarterback. If the Chiefs believe Tyler Bray is ready next year to be the top backup, they could save $3.8 million against their 2015 cap by releasing Chase Daniel. The 2015 release of wide receiver Donnie Avery would immediately shave $3.55 million from Kansas City's salary cap.

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Old 03-28-2014, 11:45 AM   #31
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Also, in 2016,bowe is an easy target for cut or restructure. So that's another upcoming opportunity for significant cap savings.
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:48 AM   #32
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Also, in 2016,bowe is an easy target for cut or restructure. So that's another upcoming opportunity for significant cap savings.
Now we're into 2016.

How soon before you start telling us to plan for 2017? 2018? 2020?
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:50 AM   #33
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Old 03-28-2014, 11:50 AM   #34
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This is all about an owner not wanting to spend cash.

Teams all over the league fork out big money and screw and still make moves. We sign 3 guys to pro bowl contracts and we are ****ed for 4 years.

Peyton Manning makes as much as Hali and Flowers combined



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Old 03-28-2014, 12:00 PM   #35
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My friends in other NFL cities (Cleveland, Denver, Miami and Philadelphia, not to mention St. Louis.) think it's cute how the Chiefs are always complaining about the salary cap.

Only in KC is it the enormous, insurmountable issue that our leadership makes it out to be.

It's a joke.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:07 PM   #36
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Can we get through 2014 first,please?
The team isn't focused on 2014, why should we be?
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:21 PM   #37
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This is all about an owner not wanting to spend cash.

Teams all over the league fork out big money and screw and still make moves. We sign 3 guys to pro bowl contracts and we are ****ed for 4 years.

Peyton Manning makes as much as Hali and Flowers combined



The Hunt family can eat a texas size bag of dicks.
It's why they didn't even entertain the idea of drafting a 1st day quarterback (let alone a number one overall).

A star quarterback necessitates bonus money outside of the cap. The Hunt family is too cheap for that.

The Chiefs are the Wal-Mart of the NFL, and we have to live with that apparently.
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It's why they didn't even entertain the idea of drafting a 1st day quarterback (let alone a number one overall).

A star quarterback necessitates bonus money outside of the cap. The Hunt family is too cheap for that.

The Chiefs are the Wal-Mart of the NFL, and we have to live with that apparently.
Yeah, we should have drafted Geno Smith.
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Now we're into 2016.

How soon before you start telling us to plan for 2017? 2018? 2020?
I am just saying it is silly to bitch that KC can't manage their cap because they have one year where it's a little dicey. We not only have a good cap situation starting next year, we will have an outstanding one for years to come.
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Old 03-28-2014, 12:35 PM   #40
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My friends in other NFL cities (Cleveland, Denver, Miami and Philadelphia, not to mention St. Louis.) think it's cute how the Chiefs are always complaining about the salary cap.

Only in KC is it the enormous, insurmountable issue that our leadership makes it out to be.

It's a joke.
Most people who bitch about the cap have no idea how it works. Money never just disappears. There's a reason why free agent spenders typically hit walls or don't find success. In a lot of cases, your big spending teams have a few years of quiet offseason to prepare for a spending spree. Outside of Peyton and Welker, for example, most of Denvers talent is loaded in having guys like Julius Thomas get paid for less than a million.
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I am just saying it is silly to bitch that KC can't manage their cap because they have one year where it's a little dicey. We not only have a good cap situation starting next year, we will have an outstanding one for years to come.
Having 125.5 million already committed, with a cap that MIGHT bump to around $140 million, and starting QB and best defensive player NOT under salary is not a "good cap situation."

At least not for the Chiefs.

It's not that the Chiefs can't manage their cap. It's that the Chiefs are about the only team in the NFL that is using the cap as an excuse to not add talent just one year after making several "win now" moves.
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Most people who bitch about the cap have no idea how it works. Money never just disappears. There's a reason why free agent spenders typically hit walls or don't find success. In a lot of cases, your big spending teams have a few years of quiet offseason to prepare for a spending spree. Outside of Peyton and Welker, for example, most of Denvers talent is loaded in having guys like Julius Thomas get paid for less than a million.
I bet i know more about the cap than you do and you're full of shit.
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Having 125.5 million already committed, with a cap that MIGHT bump to around $140 million, and starting QB and best defensive player NOT under salary is not a "good cap situation."

At least not for the Chiefs.

It's not that the Chiefs can't manage their cap. It's that the Chiefs are about the only team in the NFL that is using the cap as an excuse to not add talent just one year after making several "win now" moves.
Cutting Hali next year will pay for Houston new deal.
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The salary cap is smoke and mirrors. We haven't even begun to start restructuring deals to make it all work. Creative accounting makes almost anything possible.
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Cutting Hali next year will pay for Houston new deal.
Backfilling Hali's spot is gonna be so easy it's almost automatic.
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