Chiefs SI : Chiefs have a problem and his name is Dwayne Bowe - Page 14

**pr_capone** · 06:53 PM

His performance so far this season has been underwhelming. He is in a position to clock in his worst performance in the NFL so far and is projecting to have 54 receptions for 586 yards w/6TD.

Is his problem that defenses are keying in on him... or is it that, as suggested by Greg Bedard, that Bowe has lost a step and is no longer a top tier WR?

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/11/greg-b...preview-notes/

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6. The Chiefs will win a lot of games with their current formula: good defense that takes the ball away (15 times so far) and an offense that doesn’t turn it over (just five) for an NFL-leading plus-10 in giveaways/takeaways. But to beat the good teams, they’re going to have to start stretching the field. Defenses know QB Alex Smith is overly conservative, so they’re dropping a safety down and playing a lot of man. The Chiefs have a big problem with receiver Dwayne Bowe. Not sure what has happened to him, but he lacks explosion and can’t beat man coverage anymore. Defenses don’t fear him at all.

beach tribe · 10-12-2013, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

He did it last sunday no one gives him credit for it

Not really. I dont think thats what he means.

The D played damn good in TN.

mattschiefs · 10-12-2013, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Not really. I dont think thats what he means.

The D played damn good in TN.

The D was OUTSTANDING 3 of the 4 quarters

They had an off 3rd quarter hey it happens and gave up the lead Smith took them right back down the field and got the lead back now can it do it most the time I don't know we will see

Down4Chiefs · 10-12-2013, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by mattschiefs

NO WAY

Trent Dilfer doesn't have a superbowl.

Oh he does

Well surely Peyton has more then him

oh he doesn't

People look at the QB way to much. Qb is the most important spot on the field but there's more to football then QB folks.

Lol,I think many of us Chief fans just suffer from PTSD after seeing defenses blow so many leads that we don't feel comfortable unless the offense scores 30 points or have a 3 touchdown lead lol. I can't lie that feeling still creeps up that the game is over and we blew it soon as an opposing team gets momentum. But I'm slowly breaking out of it

We shouldn't be happy with the offenses performance because they can be better I believe. But if our defense improves even a little which is hard to imagine,great defenses have just as good a shot at a superbowl as a high powered offense these days.

mattschiefs · 10-12-2013, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Down4Chiefs

Lol,I think many of us Chief fans just suffer from PTSD after seeing defenses blow so many leads that we don't feel comfortable unless the offense scores 30 points or have a 3 touchdown lead lol. I can't lie that feeling still creeps up that the game is over and we blew it soon as an opposing team gets momentum. But I'm slowly breaking out of it

We shouldn't be happy with the offenses performance because they can be better I believe. But if our defense improves even a little which is hard to imagine,great defenses have just as good a shot at a superbowl as a high powered offense these days.

I know that feeling.

And the offense HAS to get better but when they have needed it most the offense has gotten the job done at the end of games. It hasn't been as bad as some make it out to be. But It HAS to get better. Hopefully as Alex gets more time with his WRS he feels better with then and it does.

Down4Chiefs · 10-12-2013, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pr_capone

I care. Lucky socks are bound to get thrown in the laundry at some point.

I'm thrilled that the D is carrying the team and ST is doing more than their fair share. Eventually, though, its gonna come down to Alex Smith taking this team down the field whether they want to or not. I don't know he can do that.

At somepoint he may need to pick up the slack if the defense falters. But let's not forget we have arguably the best running back in the game who can lead us down the field. Id actually rather have Jamal run more early on and force the issue and establish the run just to see what happens. You have a guy who can break a 60 yard run on any given carry,if that could be established early on maybe it would make things easier on alex smith?but I know how Andy Reid works and he's pass happy and this is the system. But I can't help but think if we established the run BEFORE the 4th maybe in turn Alex Smith looks better too. I think the trend has been he's played better in the 4th in a few games as our running game becomes more succesful iirc. People seem to be more worried about one more than the other when I think its a good chance for this team especially they go hand in hand.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-12-2013, 04:49 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

Watch the play.

I watched the play 20 times. You're dead wrong.

Bowe did not fight to cross the corners face.

**The Bad Guy** · 10-12-2013, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

A terrible Giants team and a future HOFer Eli = 0-6
A tremendous Chiefs team and a solid enough Alex Smith = 5-0

Why does Eli Manning constantly get a pass?

He's ****ing awful and has regressed worse than any "future HOF" QB I can ever remember. He's not 40 years old here. This should be his absolute prime.

Aaron Rodgers gets sacked a shit ton and still can direct an offense.

Brady is playing with NFL strike level replacement WR's and he's 4-1.

Eli Manning completely sucks. His team sucks, but he's front and center on the complete "I blow" bandwagon.

**the Talking Can** · 10-12-2013, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2013/1...bowe-vs-titans

Great break down of Bowe.

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Here is the other thing I'm noticing ... they do send Bowe on 15+ yard routes a lot, but if Alex sees a quick easy completion for 6 yards he takes that very quickly.

Capt. Checkdown won't throw the damn ball to our #1 WR = Bowe is lazy and selfish..

**Bwana** · 10-12-2013, 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

The problem is... Bowe has never really been great at getting separation consistently and now he has a QB that does his damndest to not throw to a covered WR. Bowe thrived on our past crappy QBs throwing into coverage so he can muscle the catch.

I have replayed 4 of the games and watched to see what's up with Bowe. You are on the money when you talk about separation or in this case, lack thereof. Most of the time he just isn't getting open.

**mlyonsd** · 10-12-2013, 06:03 AM

I listen to Lenny during the games and lack of separation is a common theme, for most of our receivers.

**the Talking Can** · 10-12-2013, 06:23 AM

jesus, even other QBs make fun of Smith's checkdowns:

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Pryor, when asked if he aspired to the kind of efficiency displayed by Smith, said, "I think I'm a little more risky than him. He does his thing and that's him. I just go play ball.. . . I know they've got a lot of checkdowns. That's efficient, I guess. We want to be explosive and try to attack."

http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/10...#storylink=cpy

HMc · 10-12-2013, 06:37 AM

Avery is on track for a career year. If he slows down it's good to have someone like Bowe to step up.

Otherwise, it seems like some people are upset that the QB they didn't want isn't throwing to one of their favourites.

Red Beans · 10-12-2013, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

jesus, even other QBs make fun of Smith's checkdowns:

Pryor can talk all the shit he wants, but our D is going to drive a combine right up his anus.

**Bwana** · 10-12-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Beans

Pryor can talk all the shit he wants, but our D is going to drive a combine right up his anus.

Yep, Pryor will get a chance to back up his mouth Sunday and showcase his "superior game."

**Baby Lee** · 10-12-2013, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder

nobody will be expecting bowe when he arrives

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HMc from the very deep south. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia. Casino cash: $9944900	Avery is on track for a career year. If he slows down it's good to have someone like Bowe to step up. Otherwise, it seems like some people are upset that the QB they didn't want isn't throwing to one of their favourites.
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