Chiefs SI : Chiefs have a problem and his name is Dwayne Bowe - Page 8

**pr_capone** · 06:53 PM

His performance so far this season has been underwhelming. He is in a position to clock in his worst performance in the NFL so far and is projecting to have 54 receptions for 586 yards w/6TD.

Is his problem that defenses are keying in on him... or is it that, as suggested by Greg Bedard, that Bowe has lost a step and is no longer a top tier WR?

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/10/11/greg-b...preview-notes/

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6. The Chiefs will win a lot of games with their current formula: good defense that takes the ball away (15 times so far) and an offense that doesn’t turn it over (just five) for an NFL-leading plus-10 in giveaways/takeaways. But to beat the good teams, they’re going to have to start stretching the field. Defenses know QB Alex Smith is overly conservative, so they’re dropping a safety down and playing a lot of man. The Chiefs have a big problem with receiver Dwayne Bowe. Not sure what has happened to him, but he lacks explosion and can’t beat man coverage anymore. Defenses don’t fear him at all.

Imon Yourside · 10-11-2013, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Before you talk about separation or no separation, go read the arrowhead pride link.

Bowes getting open downfield.

I would put it mostly on our line, they are letting guys through way too often so Smiff feels like he has to take the first available.

beach tribe · 10-11-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It's not Alex Smith either. Not yet. I don't know how long he can keep it up, but as long as he continues to play 4th quarter football like this, I'm a lot more forgiving about what he does the first 3 quarters.

If there comes a day when the D doesnt show up it will be interesting to see if Smith can answer the bell. He seems to respond when he has to.
Hope he can keep it up. We will see.

**Bowser** · 10-11-2013, 10:03 PM

People have been trying to make Bowe a problem child from the day he set foot in Kansas City.

Bowe may not be Larry Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson, but when I worry about the problems on this offense, I do NOT worry about Bowe.

**Tribal Warfare** · 10-11-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

If there comes a day when the D doesnt show up it will be interesting to see if Smith can answer the bell. He seems to respond when he has to.
Hope he can keep it up. We will see.

He'll better learn to let loose if or when Peyton hangs 28 or more points on the defense

Rasputin · 10-11-2013, 10:07 PM

Nothing wrong whit D Bowe. Look what happens when he does get a ball thrown his way. He will make catches and run people over. ****ing Alex Smith is a chicken shit he is too afraid to squeeze one in there.

Rasputin · 10-11-2013, 10:11 PM

Haven't heard D Bowe bitch either seems like he is a team player and gives coaches hugs after the game even when he hasn't had much thrown his way. Alex Smith needs to get the ball to him and they need find ways to make him apart of this offense. **** that Hall kid they threw to to start the game last week.

**Bowser** · 10-11-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

Nothing wrong whit D Bowe. Look what happens when he does get a ball thrown his way. He will make catches and run people over. ****ing Alex Smith is a chicken shit he is too afraid to squeeze one in there.

That's too harsh. He hasn't needed to "squeeze one in there" to this point. Alex has played just fine (and yes, I saw all the missed picks the Titans left on the field. They're a good D and it was raining. I can give him a mulligan with those, especially since he drove us for a score in the fourth quarter to seal it).

Down4Chiefs · 10-11-2013, 10:15 PM

I could be wrong but only thing I don't like about Bowe is a feel like sometimes rather than fight to make a maybe impossible catch,he feels pass inteference and is already expecting a flag instead of putting his best effort in to make the catch. But Bow has dissapeared in games a lot over the years but then will show up and catch passes at the end of the game when the game is already over and don't matter lol. Long as he's catchin balls when it matters I could give a damn if his stats are down a little bit. Never thought he was a great wide reciever and don't think you'd lose much if you subbed him in with a Braylon Edwards. Not that Braylons a bum but he's streaky,drops,can change a game as we'll but definitly not franchise. I'm talking Braylon that kept changing teams a few years ago,no clue if he's improved or gotten worse now.

HonestChieffan · 10-11-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

The problem is... Bowe has never really been great at getting separation consistently and now he has a QB that does his damndest to not throw to a covered WR. Bowe thrived on our past crappy QBs throwing into coverage so he can muscle the catch.

Well said. He isnt fast. He isnt quick he cant shake coverage. He is a good reciever. No more. And with a quality QB who can find the open guy Bowe will suffer

chiefzilla1501 · 10-11-2013, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

If there comes a day when the D doesnt show up it will be interesting to see if Smith can answer the bell. He seems to respond when he has to.
Hope he can keep it up. We will see.

I'll be interested to see that too. He might just be the type of guy that plays to the competition and cranks it up when he needs to. Big Ben and Eli have had a knack for doing that. But then... right now, I think Ben and Eli are in a much different league than Alex, because they've proven they can win plenty of games where they didn't get much help. I hope I'm wrong.

**Bowser** · 10-11-2013, 10:22 PM

Now, I will say that I was pissed at him for not running through that slant pattern against the Giants that ended up in a pick. That looked like he was dogging it for sure.

Ace Gunner · 10-11-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I would put it mostly on our line, they are letting guys through way too often so Smiff feels like he has to take the first available.

and they're letting defenders clog throwing lanes too, which I think is the biggest problem with this offense so far. we talk a lot about how this is a short pass kind of offense. well, the trajectory of short passes requires throwing lanes. without them, your passing game will suffer. pretty much what I see.

It's not just blocking. in this style offense, it's about a certain type of blocking. the type that opens throwing lanes for the pass game. that is why WCO blocking schemes are more about blocking together. it takes guys knowing how to block for those lanes to open up.

Until they get that going, we just hope they do enough to keep winning.

Rasputin · 10-11-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

That's too harsh. He hasn't needed to "squeeze one in there" to this point. Alex has played just fine (and yes, I saw all the missed picks the Titans left on the field. They're a good D and it was raining. I can give him a mulligan with those, especially since he drove us for a score in the fourth quarter to seal it).

Right now as long as we are winning I don't see any need for finger pointing. Dwayne Bowe is a hell of a good football player and does more with down field blocking too. He does get double coverage and so far Avery has been getting targets because of it.

Dwayne Bowe is going get his if they just make him more apart of the game plan. So far it's dump offs and hand offs to Jamaal Charles more than anything.

I think it is bull shit for anyone to say Dwayne Bowe is a problem on this offense. ****ing bull shit.

splatbass · 10-11-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

I would put it mostly on our line, they are letting guys through way too often so Smiff feels like he has to take the first available.

I agree.

Psyko Tek · 10-11-2013, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

He got paid.

love to say
THIS

but he blocks down field
so maybe he needs designed plays

10-11-2013, 10:03 PM	#108
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3111616	People have been trying to make Bowe a problem child from the day he set foot in Kansas City. Bowe may not be Larry Fitzgerald or Calvin Johnson, but when I worry about the problems on this offense, I do NOT worry about Bowe.
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10-11-2013, 10:07 PM	#110
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3165421	Nothing wrong whit D Bowe. Look what happens when he does get a ball thrown his way. He will make catches and run people over. ****ing Alex Smith is a chicken shit he is too afraid to squeeze one in there. __________________ A Brave Man Once Requested Me To Answer Questions That Are Key 'Is It To Be Or Not To Be' And I Replied Oh Why Ask Me
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10-11-2013, 10:11 PM	#111
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $3165421	Haven't heard D Bowe bitch either seems like he is a team player and gives coaches hugs after the game even when he hasn't had much thrown his way. Alex Smith needs to get the ball to him and they need find ways to make him apart of this offense. **** that Hall kid they threw to to start the game last week. __________________ A Brave Man Once Requested Me To Answer Questions That Are Key 'Is It To Be Or Not To Be' And I Replied Oh Why Ask Me
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10-11-2013, 10:15 PM	#113
Down4Chiefs Starter Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10005110	I could be wrong but only thing I don't like about Bowe is a feel like sometimes rather than fight to make a maybe impossible catch,he feels pass inteference and is already expecting a flag instead of putting his best effort in to make the catch. But Bow has dissapeared in games a lot over the years but then will show up and catch passes at the end of the game when the game is already over and don't matter lol. Long as he's catchin balls when it matters I could give a damn if his stats are down a little bit. Never thought he was a great wide reciever and don't think you'd lose much if you subbed him in with a Braylon Edwards. Not that Braylons a bum but he's streaky,drops,can change a game as we'll but definitly not franchise. I'm talking Braylon that kept changing teams a few years ago,no clue if he's improved or gotten worse now.
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10-11-2013, 10:22 PM	#116
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3111616	Now, I will say that I was pissed at him for not running through that slant pattern against the Giants that ended up in a pick. That looked like he was dogging it for sure.
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