Veach and the CBs, is he clueless?

[Buckweath]

He traded Peters, an All-pro cornerback, during the offseason, granted Hunt may have been behind that decision.

He signed Amerson who has looked absolutely dreadful so far. Dreadful even against backups.

And then anyone remember how he was saying that he felt good about stacking Will Redmond and Keith Reaser in regards to what was out there in the draft class. How does that sound now? Those guys look like our 7th and 8th CBs for a group that is not good to say the least.

I still dont get how he went from trying to sign Kyle Fuller to settling for Amerson.

Really, if he doesn't make a trade for a CB, I will really question him.

I feel good about the front seven even though I thought Ragland and Hitchens were not that good today, probably rusty.

But I think we know one bad starting CB can practically ruin an entire defense, right?

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by nychief

Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story.

The defense was near the bottom of the league even with Peters.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by nychief

Clark ruined this defense by forcing the Peters trade. End of story.

I keep hearing this bullshit story, yet I have not heard a single fact to back it up. Just a bunch of butthurt morons crying and pointing fingers at someone other than the one malcontent responsible for the Peters trade. Marcus Peters. It's documented that he didn't want to be in KC. It's documented that he was a head case. It's documented that he was kicked off of his college team for the same reasons that he was traded. It's documented that nobody wanted him except the Rams. But hey, blaming Hunt and saying it was because of the protests makes you feel better I guess. So let's just use your UNDOCUMENTED assumption instead.

[Buckweath]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

The defense was near the bottom of the league even with Peters.

You dont get it. We had to add to the CB group, not replace a good CB by another good one and still have an underwhelming group.

[jjchieffan]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Justin Houston and Eric Berry alone won’t be here when Mahomes gets his payday. That’s like $35 million opened up right there.

It has and will always come down to how well we can draft and develop

Yeah, and if Mahomes is as good as we hope, he will eat that up by himself. Not to mention, there will be other big contracts in there by then. Hopefully, a top free agent corner, Fuller, Hill, and, depending on how they develop, several others could be getting fairly large contracts. You can't count on contracts coming off the books without also figuring in contracts that will happen.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Buckweath

You dont get it. We had to add to the CB group, not replace a good CB by another good one and still have an underwhelming group.

We had to add to the ILB group too bc it was pathetic. Also at DL bc it was pathetic. Also at OLB bc it was pathetic. Also at S bc outside of Berry it was pathetic.

Can’t fix every hole in one offseason.

[Chief Roundup]

Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders

[TLO]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We had to add to the ILB group too bc it was pathetic. Also at DL bc it was pathetic. Also at OLB bc it was pathetic. Also at S bc outside of Berry it was pathetic.

Can’t fix every hole in one offseason.

Every hole is a goal!

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Marcus Peters Pros:
Created Turnovers

Marcus Peters Cons:
Refuses to tackle
Quit on team
Unsportsmanlike Penalties
Doesn't play the defense that was called
Locker room Cancer
Argues with coaches
Loves the Raiders

We don’t know all the behind the scenes details but this post really is kinda true.

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it 1000 more times. If they felt like there was any reason they could afford to keep their perennial pro bowl corner around longer, he’d still be here. Those guys don’t get traded without good reason.

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I keep hearing this bullshit story, yet I have not heard a single fact to back it up. Just a bunch of butthurt morons crying and pointing fingers at someone other than the one malcontent responsible for the Peters trade. Marcus Peters. It's documented that he didn't want to be in KC. It's documented that he was a head case. It's documented that he was kicked off of his college team for the same reasons that he was traded. It's documented that nobody wanted him except the Rams. But hey, blaming Hunt and saying it was because of the protests makes you feel better I guess. So let's just use your UNDOCUMENTED assumption instead.

Then why did we let the Rams fleece us for Peters? Do you have any idea how hard it is to find corners with his instincts and nose for the ball? Documentation are you serious? None of us were in the meetings so we don’t know for sure.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by jjchieffan

I keep hearing this bullshit story, yet I have not heard a single fact to back it up. Just a bunch of butthurt morons crying and pointing fingers at someone other than the one malcontent responsible for the Peters trade. Marcus Peters. It's documented that he didn't want to be in KC. It's documented that he was a head case. It's documented that he was kicked off of his college team for the same reasons that he was traded. It's documented that nobody wanted him except the Rams. But hey, blaming Hunt and saying it was because of the protests makes you feel better I guess. So let's just use your UNDOCUMENTED assumption instead.

Honestly, do you REALLY believe you would hear facts to back it up? Just think about the controversies present today in the NFL. Would an owner really subject himself and the league to something like that , and DOCUMENT it? He would be inviting a law suit. Would an owner of a franchise want to be branded like that? NOPE!

All that you are saying is true, BUT I also believe that Cark played a roll in it. To not even entertain that possibility is incredibly niave.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by TEX

Not with our OL we cant. The whole left side can not be counted on. Also pretty weak at Center. But I get your point.

Exactly!! Shittsburg has top 5 talent at most OL positions. I’d say our best tops out in the bottom 1/3 of the league.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Then why did we let the Rams fleece us for Peters? Do you have any idea how hard it is to find corners with his instincts and nose for the ball? Documentation are you serious? None of us were in the meetings so we don’t know for sure.

Fleeced....really. When there were only a couple of teams even willing to consider Peters because of his attitude and history it speaks loudly about what the league thinks of him. We took the best offer to remove a problem from our team. That is not getting fleeced at all and when, not if, he continues his behavior we will have been the one that fleeced the Rams.

[TEX]

When Veach signed Amerison so quickly, it was the first time I thought he wasn't all that. To me, the signing reeked of desperation. He likes to get guys cheap, that were good at one time, but "something" happened and they have questions now. Low-risk - high - reward types. I get that - so do all GM's. The problem is if you count an too many of these types for critical rolls, and they don't pan out, you get a bunch of JAG types who show you why they are who they are now - and it kills your team.

[Ming the Merciless]

The CB's might suddenly look better if we could muster a little pressure from the line

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

The CB's might suddenly look better if we could muster a little pressure from the line

It would but we would not be allowed to tackle the QB!