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Old 05-02-2012, 05:10 PM   Topic Starter
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The Broncos: I don't see it.

I really don't.

The Manning thing was a stroke of genius, if only because John Elway has the benefit of being Manning's idol. I tell you what, if I was a future Hall of Fame basketball player, and none of you know me so let's just say I am, I'd probably be more inclined to play for the Pacers under Larry Bird (favorite player of all time) than on a small market playoff team like the Memphis Grizzlies.

I think the Broncos, with that acquisition, are about to have themselves a Top 5 passing game in the NFL.

The problem is, I'm pretty sure that's all this team is.

The offensive line is not close to being fixed. Orlando Franklin has been serviceable on the right side, but is not an Eric Winston world beater at the position. And unless they move Franklin inside, their interior line is a joke. Beadles looks like he's getting another year sucking it up at RG, and it looks like JD Walton will be sucking it up at C yet again, because I honestly don't think Phillip Blake unseats him. And if he does, we'll take 680 lbs of nose tackle and shove it up right up the rook's nose.

Which would mean a ton if they had a demonic run game to threaten defenses with -- which, ding ding ding, you guessed it: it's average. Willis McGahee was running like a wildman when Tebow was under center, but they couldn't move the ball against the Chiefs bottom-third run defense late in the year. The only reinforcements they've brought in? A scatback from San Diego State, Ronnie Hillman.

I've no doubt that teams will drop eight, giving the Donks a chance to run better, but it's nothing a stout defensive line and a fast linebacker corps can't rectify.

Their defensive line continues to underwhelm me up the middle -- I like what they have coming off the edges, but I think you can run right at Dumervil and Ayers (I regard Miller as the real deal). I've never been a big DJ Williams fan, just plays too much like Derrick Johnson from the Vermeil days for me to get too excited about.

Their secondary has some talent. Bailey is an All Pro in his twilight years, and I love that safety they drafted from UCLA last year. But Porter has spent the past year or two getting his ass handed to him in New Orleans, and their rookie corner is coming off a devastating injury and is going to take a year or two to develop anyway.

The more things change, the more they stay the same... the Broncos are looking a lot now like the Colts did in the latter Manning years: all pass game with an average run game, with a shit defense apart from two passrushers.

It was a successful strategy in Indianapolis, when the run game was better. The offensive line was better. The defense was better.

And the quarterback was younger, stronger, not a year out of football, one hit away from being sidelined.

In which case, we'll either see a lanky-ass rookie with a Tebow-style delivery, or Caleb Hanie, who we beat in 2011 with Tyler Palko under center.

Sorry folks, don't see it.

San Diego or Kansas City make a ton more sense as division winners.
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:13 PM   #2
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:16 PM   #3
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:18 PM   #4
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If Manning has lost a part of that quick release, Donks may not win 8
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:30 PM   #5
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If Manning has lost a part of that quick release, Donks may not win 8
Ya even by chance Peyton fn Manning makes it through the season, parts of his game wont be the same and he will be rusty to start then his age will come around soon enough. I don't expect him to make it through this season but he won't be as effective with them as they are hoping him to be even if he does. jmo.
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Old 05-02-2012, 06:32 PM   #6
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Manning will have a big case of jitters and his barking out calls will result in more false starts for them, especially when they come to Arrowhead. It's a total different offense for the team to adjust too after how they ran with TjhcT.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:43 PM   #7
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Manning will have a big case of jitters and his barking out calls will result in more false starts for them, especially when they come to Arrowhead. It's a total different offense for the team to adjust too after how they ran with TjhcT.
You mean like the time he came into Arrowhead and the best Chiefs team in 30 years couldn't make him punt?
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:53 PM   #8
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You mean like the time he came into Arrowhead and the best Chiefs team in 30 years couldn't make him punt?
We're trying to protect your feelings, dude.

Manning is far more ready for the Broncos than the Broncos are ready for Manning.

There will totally be a transition period of sorts at the beginning of the season. If you're expecting the Indianapolis Colts at the very beginning, boy, you've got another thing ****ing coming.
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Old 05-02-2012, 11:54 PM   #9
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You mean like the time he came into Arrowhead and the best Chiefs team in 30 years couldn't make him punt?
Haha

That may have been the worst defense we have ever fielded in my time watching the Chiefs.

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They weren't the only team that didn't punt that day.
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:14 AM   #10
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You mean like the time he came into Arrowhead and the best Chiefs team in 30 years couldn't make him punt?
Ah, back in the day when we were stupid enough to actually let a former Donkey coach coordinate our defense...
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:14 AM   #11
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You mean like the time he came into Arrowhead and the best Chiefs team in 30 years couldn't make him punt?
I remember that...it was before he broke his neck and let his throwing arm muscles turn to string cheese
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Old 05-02-2012, 05:20 PM   #12
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Manning can get a mediocre team to the postseason. He did it for most of his career. I expect he will do so this year. Nobody really thinks Denver is a Super Bowl threat, though, except the orange jammie types.
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If Manning has lost a part of that quick release, Donks may not win 8
Manning isn't a guy like Favre who lived on physical talent and could make poor decisions because of it. Manning is a technician and probably the most capable quarterback mentally who ever played the game. If anyone could still compete despite his physical skills regressing some it would be him.
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