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Old 01-28-2017, 09:54 AM   #1
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:30 AM   #2
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:46 AM   #3
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Old 01-28-2017, 10:53 AM   #4
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I'd say you are right but in no way am I going give Denver credit to winning it last year without saying that Cam just laid down for them. Accepting last years Super Bowl I have not done.


Again we got Peyton Manning benched for OscarMyerWiener and Peyton looked like shit into the Super Bowl.

I don't get it.

I won't get it.

It's all incomprehensible.

Talk about needing an elite quarterback Peyton was no elite quarterback last year.

I'm dumbfounded by all this rouge.

Peyton Manning played like shit last year yet still wins a Super Bowl. How is this possible?
Every so often, a team puts together a once-in-a-decade defense that can drag a brokedick QB to a ring. The '85 Bears, the 2000 Ravens, and last year's Donks come to mind. It also helped that even though Fivehead couldn't throw anymore, he could still audible and adjust to better plays than the vanilla shit that Kubiak likes to run and keep the defense guessing that way.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:01 AM   #5
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Not one "game manager" on Frazod's list.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:02 AM   #6
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Not one "game manager" on Frazod's list.
Yep.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:15 AM   #7
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Not one "game manager" on Frazod's list.
Not one.

The closest blueprint we have is the Gannon led Raiders team, but Gannon was a gamer, an overachiever, a team leader.

Smith is an underachiever who lets his fear of making a mistake hold him back.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:21 AM   #8
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Not one "game manager" on Frazod's list.
Alex Smith is here to be a 'Franchise manager". He wins enough games to put butts in seats, keep the team winning enough games to keep the franchise profitable.
The owner of this team is not a 'football guy'. He is a businessman. A Super Bowl is not his ultimate goal. It's making money.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:17 AM   #9
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Seems to me that KC's business model has been pretty consistent over the years:

1) Turn a profit.

2) Don't be an embarrassment.

Anything beyond that has been pure dumb luck.
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:45 PM   #10
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Seems to me that KC's business model has been pretty consistent over the years:

1) Turn a profit.

2) Don't be an embarrassment.

Anything beyond that has been pure dumb luck.
It's impossible to lose money as an NFL owner.

The league collects more than NINE BILLION DOLLARS from TV rights alone, with only 48% of that income passed on to the players.

The average NFL franchise earns more than $180 million per year, before the paltry stadium revenues are included.
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Old 01-28-2017, 01:50 PM   #11
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It's impossible to lose money as an NFL owner.

The league collects more than NINE BILLION DOLLARS from TV rights alone, with only 48% of that income passed on to the players.

The average NFL franchise earns more than $180 million per year, before the paltry stadium revenues are included.
Yea, but there are different levels of making money.

Some owners want to JUST turn a profit and some want to make a HUGE profit.

market size makes a big difference on how easy it is to make additional profit


If the Hunt family had a choice between winning at soccer or at football, i bet they would choose soccer.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:13 PM   #12
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market size makes a big difference on how easy it is to make additional profit
That's not really true.

Teams like Pittsburgh and Green Bay have huge national followings. Those teams are still lower in jersey sales than teams like the Cowboys and Patriots.

https://www.nflpa.com/players/news/t...-year-end-list

Top Ten Jersey Sales for the 2015 Season:

Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
Peyton Manning, QB, Denver Broncos
Russell Wilson, QB, Seattle Seahawks
Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers
Dez Bryant, WR, Dallas Cowboys
Odell Beckham Jr., WR, New York Giants
Cam Newton, QB, Carolina Panthers
Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots
J.J. Watt, DE, Houston Texans
Jason Witten, TE, Dallas Cowboys

Furthermore, every NFL Gate is split 60/40, with the home team receiving 60% and the visiting team 40%. Franchises that charge for PSL's and have higher ticket prices doesn't necessarily equal more profit, as teams like the Giants/Jets, Cowboys, etc. all privately financed their stadiums.

What this illustrates is that outside of a few select cities, building $1.8 billion plus stadiums is completely unnecessary, as ticket revenues will never, ever approach the billions that TV contracts provide.

These stadiums are just dick measuring contests.
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Old 01-28-2017, 02:35 PM   #13
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That's not really true.

Teams like Pittsburgh and Green Bay have huge national followings. Those teams are still lower in jersey sales than teams like the Cowboys and Patriots.

https://www.nflpa.com/players/news/t...-year-end-list

Top Ten Jersey Sales for the 2015 Season:

Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots
Peyton Manning, QB, Denver Broncos
Russell Wilson, QB, Seattle Seahawks
Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay Packers
Dez Bryant, WR, Dallas Cowboys
Odell Beckham Jr., WR, New York Giants
Cam Newton, QB, Carolina Panthers
Rob Gronkowski, TE, New England Patriots
J.J. Watt, DE, Houston Texans
Jason Witten, TE, Dallas Cowboys

Furthermore, every NFL Gate is split 60/40, with the home team receiving 60% and the visiting team 40%. Franchises that charge for PSL's and have higher ticket prices doesn't necessarily equal more profit, as teams like the Giants/Jets, Cowboys, etc. all privately financed their stadiums.

What this illustrates is that outside of a few select cities, building $1.8 billion plus stadiums is completely unnecessary, as ticket revenues will never, ever approach the billions that TV contracts provide.

These stadiums are just dick measuring contests.
Huh you would think the way Tiger Uppers talks about Alex Smith he would be a top 3 seller. Huh weird.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:26 AM   #14
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Because the stars get the calls their way doesn't mean I think it's fixed. It's like that in other sports. Good pitchers and hitters get calls their way. Jordan and now LeBron got/get their calls. When kc gets a qb who is marketable the breaks will go their way. Smith is a boring safe game manager who will never get superstar calls.
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Old 01-28-2017, 11:59 AM   #15
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Because the stars get the calls their way doesn't mean I think it's fixed. It's like that in other sports. Good pitchers and hitters get calls their way. Jordan and now LeBron got/get their calls. When kc gets a qb who is marketable the breaks will go their way. Smith is a boring safe game manager who will never get superstar calls.
Truth.

If the Chiefs were to make a play for and snag Sam Darnold, KC would instantly get more breaks from the league. It's a QB league and as you say; the league wants QB's that are marketable and who win.
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