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Old 04-21-2014, 10:52 PM   #1
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I turned this movie off after the River-Barrel scene and do not plan on finishing it.

This is coming from a long time lover of Fantasy world stuff, and a fan of the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Although, I'm not a fanboy of this stuff like some of you freaks. I have no read the books, but I'm sure they are a ton better.


This scene was so ****ing stupid.
Agreed. Waaay too much fake looking CGI in this trilogy. The LoTRs movies had a ton of CGI as well, but he still used alot of practical effects. Not sure why He decided to change to digital so much?
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Agreed. Waaay too much fake looking CGI in this trilogy. The LoTRs movies had a ton of CGI as well, but he still used alot of practical effects. Not sure why He decided to change to digital so much?
The HFR 3D probably played a big part in that. Considering how mind-blowing the 3D was touted as being, it was pretty meh for the most part.
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Agreed. Waaay too much fake looking CGI in this trilogy. The LoTRs movies had a ton of CGI as well, but he still used alot of practical effects. Not sure why He decided to change to digital so much?
Smaug didn't impress me much. by the time I saw the movie, i was sick of hearing the name pronounced Smowg. Yech. where are Smaugs arms? and why does he look blue nosed? I thought LOTR had a really good blend of PR and CGI. The Hobbit was decent when i watched without 3D. HobbitoS dragged on and left with another cliff hanger. none of that melted gold looked convincing. And that made no sense that Smaug was able to fly while coated in it.
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Old 04-23-2014, 09:06 AM   #4
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Smaug didn't impress me much. by the time I saw the movie, i was sick of hearing the name pronounced Smowg. Yech. where are Smaugs arms? and why does he look blue nosed? I thought LOTR had a really good blend of PR and CGI. The Hobbit was decent when i watched without 3D. HobbitoS dragged on and left with another cliff hanger. none of that melted gold looked convincing. And that made no sense that Smaug was able to fly while coated in it.
That's how it's supposed to be pronounced...
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That's how it's supposed to be pronounced...
true. most people pronounce Smaug as smog though. if his name were pronounced smog, that would be a fitting name.
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Smaug didn't impress me much. by the time I saw the movie, i was sick of hearing the name pronounced Smowg. Yech. where are Smaugs arms? and why does he look blue nosed? I thought LOTR had a really good blend of PR and CGI. The Hobbit was decent when i watched without 3D. HobbitoS dragged on and left with another cliff hanger. none of that melted gold looked convincing. And that made no sense that Smaug was able to fly while coated in it.
I saw the first Hobbit and saw twenty minutes of Smaug at the Oscar short list presentation in the intended frame rate and stereo, and Smaug is an abomination. I think some of the issue is the amount of light needed to double frame rate. It is very unattractive to light scenes that way, and there is no amount of color grading that will cover what is fundamentally bad lighting. You can do alot with grading as long as you have a good value structure with which to start. Somebody is going to have to reinvent lighting for movies with high frame rate as the usual compositions do not seem to work particularly with strong back lighting. However they will never pay to light a movie once for HFR and then again for regular releases so one will always suffer.
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Smaug didn't impress me much. by the time I saw the movie, i was sick of hearing the name pronounced Smowg. Yech. where are Smaugs arms? and why does he look blue nosed? I thought LOTR had a really good blend of PR and CGI. The Hobbit was decent when i watched without 3D. HobbitoS dragged on and left with another cliff hanger. none of that melted gold looked convincing. And that made no sense that Smaug was able to fly while coated in it.

The "giant molten gold dwarf" weapon, thing, whatever, was just about the stupidest idea i've ever seen put on film.

And I agree that Jackson has gone Lucas-levels of insane with the CGI. It's a trend. Movies are increasingly absurd/unrealistic across the board. I can suspend belief, but only so far. Please don't make me start disbelieving obvious laws of physics.
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The "giant molten gold dwarf" weapon, thing, whatever, was just about the stupidest idea i've ever seen put on film.

And I agree that Jackson has gone Lucas-levels of insane with the CGI. It's a trend. Movies are increasingly absurd/unrealistic across the board. I can suspend belief, but only so far. Please don't make me start disbelieving obvious laws of physics.
Agreed. I can hardly watch a Peter Jackson film anymore. Viggo said it best in the link i posted above.
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So let me get this straight....you're a self-proclaimed "lover of fantasy world stuff" and have read the Lord of the Rings trilogy.....but you haven't read The Hobbit?

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So let me get this straight....you're a self-proclaimed "lover of fantasy world stuff" and have read the Lord of the Rings trilogy.....but you haven't read The Hobbit?

Opinion discarded.
Ok. I LIKE fantasy world stuff. Is that better?

I don't have time to read books. I have other hobbies and 2 small children that occupy all of my free time.

I don't care if you don't value my opinion. I still think the River-Barrel scene was pure garbage.
It reminded me of the car chase in the terrible movie "Wanted".



Did you think it was awesome to watch Legolas stand on 2 floating barrels while shooting arrows? Did you think it was awesome that one of the barrels magically just went off course and knocked through like 50 orcs? lol It was like they made this movie for 8 year olds.
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The hobbit is generally understood to be targeted for a younger group.
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I'm reading the Silmarillion now. So interesting!
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I'm reading the Silmarillion now. So interesting!
Rest assured with the $$$ they make of these they'll find a way to make a movie(s) for any of his stuff.

Toilet paper confirmed he wiped his ass with would probably get greenlit.
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Rest assured with the $$$ they make of these they'll find a way to make a movie(s) for any of his stuff.

Toilet paper confirmed he wiped his ass with would probably get greenlit.
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“Peter was always a geek in terms of technology but, once he had the means to do it, and the evolution of the technology really took off, he never looked back. In the first [Lord of the Rings] movie, yes, there’s Rivendell and Mordor, but there’s sort of an organic quality to it, actors acting with each other, and real landscapes — it’s grittier. The second movie already started ballooning, for my taste, and then by the third one, there were a lot of special effects. It was grandiose and all that, but whatever was subtle, in the first movie, gradually got lost in the second and third. Now with The Hobbit, one and two, it’s like [all] that to the power of 10.” — Viggo Mortensen on Peter Jackson


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