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The meeting that brought Andy Reid to Kansas City and changed the Chiefs’ fortunes

Pretty interesting long-form article by Mellinger about the decision between Andy and Clark back in 2013. We knew a lot of this, but it's cool to think back about how pivotal the decision has been for the franchise. Probably not a lot to discuss, but I thought it was interesting.

The meeting that brought Andy Reid to Kansas City and changed the Chiefs’ fortunes

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nf...224241440.html

The week that changed the Kansas City Chiefs forever began with a Hail Mary phone call to Andy Reid’s cell phone six years ago this month. He’d just been fired as head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles and was walking out of his going-away party when he saw a number he didn’t recognize.

Clark Hunt, the Chiefs’ billionaire chairman in need of a coach after firing Romeo Crennel, expected to leave a message.

“I didn’t expect you to answer,” Hunt told Reid, according to someone familiar with the conversation.

“This is the first call I’ve answered,” Reid replied.


The two had little relationship beyond seeing each other at an annual meeting between coaches and owners. But they did have a long-distance mutual admiration. Reid has always loved history and football, and few families are more entwined with the history of football than the Hunts. As the chairman of the family business, Clark had long craved stability for the Chiefs.

The pairing made sense, with a few contingencies.

Hunt needed to know if Reid wanted to work again. Reid had just gone through an unthinkably difficult year — his son Garrett died of an accidental overdose, and 14 seasons with the Eagles ended with a 4-12 record in 2012.

Reid needed to know if Hunt had a plan. The Chiefs had experienced their own tragedy wrapped in the worst year of their franchise history — a 2-14 season low-lighted by starting linebacker Jovan Belcher’s murder-suicide.

They met on Wednesday, Jan. 2, 2013, in a conference room at the Philadelphia airport. Within a few hours, a plane from the Cardinals landed to take Reid to an interview in Arizona. He never boarded. He also had an interview scheduled with the Chargers. He canceled it.

They ordered Chickie & Pete’s — an Eagles partner, and the host of his radio show with the Eagles — but Reid didn’t eat a bite. This was business. Before he left he made a decision that would change the league and set forth the path of one of the sport’s longest head-coaching careers.

In the following years, the Chiefs went from dysfunction to stability, from 2-14 to the AFC’s No. 1 seed with Reid. The coach went from fired to wanted, from a situation that had become unrepairable to a place so excited for his credibility that a news helicopter followed his first drive to the stadium.

Reid has bolstered a Hall of Fame case, and now holds the franchise’s best chance of reaching a Super Bowl in at least 15 years. All of it started in that conference room six years ago, a relationship forged over crab fries, the coach who had his pick of jobs choosing the Chiefs for reasons that ran from personal to professional.

Eight teams hired new coaches that cycle. The Chiefs moved first, and best. Reid is the only coach hired that offseason still with his team, and only the Patriots have won more games. Chiefs executives considered themselves lucky that Reid was available, the perfect man at the perfect time.

“Just how thorough Clark was,” Reid said this week when asked what he remembered about that meeting. “He wants to win a championship. That’s what he wants to do. He gave you every indicator that’s what he wanted. As a coach, that’s all you can ask for. Then he went into details from there.”


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Old 01-11-2019, 08:13 PM   #61
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Those guys also had retards for GMs. Andy had a stud. That’s a huge diff. Andy wouldn’t win with the garbage Pioli acquired. Maybe Andy has a big parry in that, maybe none (truth prob somewhere in between). But damn did Dorsey rebuild this roster. And if Veach is solely responsible for Mahomes - or even majority so - that’s another massive difference.
The "garbage" they acquired included Eric Berry, Justin Houston, and Dontari Poe, all of whom contributed to having a top scoring defense for 4 years in a row.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:18 PM   #62
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The "garbage" they acquired included Eric Berry, Justin Houston, and Dontari Poe, all of whom contributed to having a top scoring defense for 4 years in a row.
Alex Smith the great neutralizer.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:21 PM   #63
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Alex Smith the great neutralizer.
It goes both ways. Dorsey acquired him. In fact, the current defense is largely in the state it's in because of John Dorsey and his inability to augment/replace guys Scott Pioli drafted.
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The "garbage" they acquired included Eric Berry, Justin Houston, and Dontari Poe, all of whom contributed to having a top scoring defense for 4 years in a row.
So? They had top draft picks (Houston an exception and one of Piolis good moves, which were rare).


Dorsey doesn’t compare to those shmucks. And you know that.
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So? They had top draft picks (Houston an exception and one of Piolis good moves, which were rare).


Dorsey doesn’t compare to those shmucks. And you know that.
The truth actually lies in the middle. And you know that.
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I’m honestly curious at to what fortunes Fat Andy has changed for the Chiefs? 1-4 in the playoffs with #2 and #3 all time historical playoff losses.


How has he changed our fortune?
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:35 PM   #67
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I’m honestly curious at to what fortunes Fat Andy has changed for the Chiefs? 1-4 in the playoffs with #2 and #3 all time historical playoff losses.


How has he changed our fortune?
He hasn't gone 2-14.

You have to remember that to the vast majority of fans, being "good" is good enough.

Andy Reid basically took the Chiefs from 10 years of losing 65% of their games to winning 65% of their games. That's the kind of thing that gets Marty Schottenheimer WORSHIPED to this day. It's not good enough for some of us, but then again, we're not "average" fans.
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The truth actually lies in the middle. And you know that.
I’m confused - the “truth” is halfway btw Pioli and Dorsey? I cannot agree.
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I’m confused - the “truth” is halfway btw Pioli and Dorsey? I cannot agree.
The truth is Dorsey wasn't the best ever and Pioli wasn't the worst ever. You can say he had high picks, Dorsey had the #1 overall and walked away with a mediocre tackle. Both of them had hits and misses.
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Fat Scott was just present to pick up the candy wrappers in the room after the marathon 9 hour meeting to interview/hire Andy.
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I love all the food jokes. Scott Pioli was picking picking up burger wrappers for "Fat" Andy and such. It's like people actually read the article or something.
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He hasn't gone 2-14.

You have to remember that to the vast majority of fans, being "good" is good enough.

Andy Reid basically took the Chiefs from 10 years of losing 65% of their games to winning 65% of their games. That's the kind of thing that gets Marty Schottenheimer WORSHIPED to this day. It's not good enough for some of us, but then again, we're not "average" fans.
Fair point.
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I love all the food jokes. Scott Pioli was picking picking up burger wrappers for "Fat" Andy and such. It's like people actually read the article or something.
He gave Andy a sponge bath after the feasting:
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Those guys also had retards for GMs. Andy had a stud. That’s a huge diff. Andy wouldn’t win with the garbage Pioli acquired. Maybe Andy has a big parry in that, maybe none (truth prob somewhere in between). But damn did Dorsey rebuild this roster. And if Veach is solely responsible for Mahomes - or even majority so - that’s another massive difference



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No.

His legacy will be determined when either he or Patrick Mahomes is no longer with the franchise. If one of those guys leave and he still hasn't delivered a championship then he deserves all the criticism you could possibly throw at him.
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He hasn't gone 2-14.

You have to remember that to the vast majority of fans, being "good" is good enough.

Andy Reid basically took the Chiefs from 10 years of losing 65% of their games to winning 65% of their games. That's the kind of thing that gets Marty Schottenheimer WORSHIPED to this day. It's not good enough for some of us, but then again, we're not "average" fans.
Guilty. Don't get me wrong - I want to win a Super Bowl obviously. But I also realize that the NFL season is 5 months long, and I'd like to at least be somewhat entertained for 4 of them. If we can make the 5th one fun too, that'll be even better.
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