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The meeting that brought Andy Reid to Kansas City and changed the Chiefs’ fortunes

Pretty interesting long-form article by Mellinger about the decision between Andy and Clark back in 2013. We knew a lot of this, but it's cool to think back about how pivotal the decision has been for the franchise. Probably not a lot to discuss, but I thought it was interesting.

The meeting that brought Andy Reid to Kansas City and changed the Chiefs’ fortunes

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/nf...224241440.html

The week that changed the Kansas City Chiefs forever began with a Hail Mary phone call to Andy Reid’s cell phone six years ago this month. He’d just been fired as head coach of the Philadelphia Eagles and was walking out of his going-away party when he saw a number he didn’t recognize.

Clark Hunt, the Chiefs’ billionaire chairman in need of a coach after firing Romeo Crennel, expected to leave a message.

“I didn’t expect you to answer,” Hunt told Reid, according to someone familiar with the conversation.

“This is the first call I’ve answered,” Reid replied.


The two had little relationship beyond seeing each other at an annual meeting between coaches and owners. But they did have a long-distance mutual admiration. Reid has always loved history and football, and few families are more entwined with the history of football than the Hunts. As the chairman of the family business, Clark had long craved stability for the Chiefs.

The pairing made sense, with a few contingencies.

Hunt needed to know if Reid wanted to work again. Reid had just gone through an unthinkably difficult year — his son Garrett died of an accidental overdose, and 14 seasons with the Eagles ended with a 4-12 record in 2012.

Reid needed to know if Hunt had a plan. The Chiefs had experienced their own tragedy wrapped in the worst year of their franchise history — a 2-14 season low-lighted by starting linebacker Jovan Belcher’s murder-suicide.

They met on Wednesday, Jan. 2, 2013, in a conference room at the Philadelphia airport. Within a few hours, a plane from the Cardinals landed to take Reid to an interview in Arizona. He never boarded. He also had an interview scheduled with the Chargers. He canceled it.

They ordered Chickie & Pete’s — an Eagles partner, and the host of his radio show with the Eagles — but Reid didn’t eat a bite. This was business. Before he left he made a decision that would change the league and set forth the path of one of the sport’s longest head-coaching careers.

In the following years, the Chiefs went from dysfunction to stability, from 2-14 to the AFC’s No. 1 seed with Reid. The coach went from fired to wanted, from a situation that had become unrepairable to a place so excited for his credibility that a news helicopter followed his first drive to the stadium.

Reid has bolstered a Hall of Fame case, and now holds the franchise’s best chance of reaching a Super Bowl in at least 15 years. All of it started in that conference room six years ago, a relationship forged over crab fries, the coach who had his pick of jobs choosing the Chiefs for reasons that ran from personal to professional.

Eight teams hired new coaches that cycle. The Chiefs moved first, and best. Reid is the only coach hired that offseason still with his team, and only the Patriots have won more games. Chiefs executives considered themselves lucky that Reid was available, the perfect man at the perfect time.

“Just how thorough Clark was,” Reid said this week when asked what he remembered about that meeting. “He wants to win a championship. That’s what he wants to do. He gave you every indicator that’s what he wanted. As a coach, that’s all you can ask for. Then he went into details from there.”


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Old 01-11-2019, 03:46 PM   #16
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I know he's historically had issues in the postseason, but...

6 years before Andy: 29-67 (30%)
6 years with Andy: 65-31 (68%)

I had just about stopped watching games before he arrived, and he's completely changed that. Hopefully he'll get the playoff monkey off of his back soon, but I'm not going to gripe about having 4 months of good football to watch each year.
Actually, he had a winning record in the playoffs prior to coming to KC. His big bugaboo was the NFC Championship game - he was 1-4 in the championship game.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:49 PM   #17
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Actually, he had a winning record in the playoffs prior to coming to KC. His big bugaboo was the NFC Championship game - he was 1-4 in the championship game.
If we could combine the offensive prowess of Reid/Mahomes with a Jim Johnson level defense we'd be unbeatable.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:49 PM   #18
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Heh...oops. Yeah. I'll fix it. Thanks.
I was gonna point that out, but figured it was some weird statistic measurement i had never heard of.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:50 PM   #19
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If we could combine the offensive prowess of Reid/Mahomes with a Jim Johnson level defense we'd be unbeatable.
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of course if Johnson didn't leave Andy would probably still be in Philly. Need to do our best to get rid of Sob Buttons.
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Old 01-11-2019, 03:54 PM   #21
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If we could combine the offensive prowess of Reid/Mahomes with a Jim Johnson level defense we'd be unbeatable.
That's pretty hard to do in today's NFL, there's only so much scratch to go around. That being said, there's a lot tied up on the defensive side of the ball that can be better used, so there's always hope.
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And then came this. 6 years ago today.

The Kansas City Chiefs is with Cliff Whisler.
January 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM ·
Chiefs Name Bob Sutton as Defensive Coordinator -
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Old 01-11-2019, 04:04 PM   #23
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And then came this. 6 years ago today.

The Kansas City Chiefs is with Cliff Whisler.
January 11, 2013 at 4:08 PM ·
Chiefs Name Bob Sutton as Defensive Coordinator -
He was just fine for the first 4 years. He doesn't know what to do without Poe, Houston, and Berry. Time for him to go away. But it wasn't a bad hire at the time.
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He was just fine for the first 4 years. He doesn't know what to do without Poe, Houston, and Berry. Time for him to go away. But it wasn't a bad hire at the time.
I still don't really think he's BAD, per se, but he's gotten very stale. Like the situation with McCarthey or even Reid in Philadelphia, it is just time for a mutual parting of ways.
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This was a good read. We made a good pitch to the best coach available. We drafted the superstar QB. Let's reap some rewards from those actions
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I still don't really think he's BAD, per se, but he's gotten very stale. Like the situation with McCarthey or even Reid in Philadelphia, it is just time for a mutual parting of ways.
Some of that maybe. I think he's one of those guys that needs an all-pro at every level to succeed, kind of like Gunther.

I've always been more of a "it's the players, not the coaching" person anyway but in this case, that certainly seems to be true. When Poe, Houston, and Berry were all in top shape, Sutton was lights out. They started to break down and so did his scheme. You can't build defenses like that, because the stars just don't align all that often.
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Eight teams hired new coaches that cycle. The Chiefs moved first, and best. Reid is the only coach hired that offseason still with his team, and only the Patriots have won more games. Chiefs executives considered themselves lucky that Reid was available, the perfect man at the perfect time.

Pretty damn good run so far and it's only going to get better with Mahomes.
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Some of that maybe. I think he's one of those guys that needs an all-pro at every level to succeed, kind of like Gunther.

I've always been more of a "it's the players, not the coaching" person anyway but in this case, that certainly seems to be true. When Poe, Houston, and Berry were all in top shape, Sutton was lights out. They started to break down and so did his scheme. You can't build defenses like that, because the stars just don't align all that often.
Yep. Dude had an all pro pass rusher, an all pro ILB, an all pro NT and an all pro at safety. That will mask a lot of scheme and talent issues for sure.
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Eight teams hired new coaches that cycle. The Chiefs moved first, and best. Reid is the only coach hired that offseason still with his team, and only the Patriots have won more games. Chiefs executives considered themselves lucky that Reid was available, the perfect man at the perfect time.

Pretty damn good run so far and it's only going to get better with Mahomes.
Right now, Reid is looking a lot like Marty and that's not a good thing honestly. The Chiefs have had tons of regular season success, now it's time for the postseason.

Fortunately. Andy has something now that neither Marty nor him have EVER had - Patrick Mahomes.
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And just to be clear, I'm not busting on Reid. I love Andy Reid. Everybody knows I'm not fond of Marty.

Here's where Reid is different - he knew we needed Mahomes and he went out and got him. Marty would have replaced Alex Smith with another retread, he didn't value the QB position the same way Reid does.
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