Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs

[Deberg_1990]

Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
49ers have completed a trade with the Chiefs for Alex Smith, tho can't be official til March 12. Chiefs really made a commitment to Smith


Jay Glazer @JayGlazer
Deal has been agreed upon between Chiefs and 49ers. Compensation unclear but I'm told again Chiefs have made a clear commitment to Smith.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The 2011 Chiefs were two blocked FGs away from a playoff berth.

With QB starts by Cassel, Palko and Kyle Orton.

....

Oh my goodness, Tyler Palko...and to think we actually won a game with him...that was funny.

Orton > Smith. And as I wrote in that tl;dr post, Orton isn't even that good.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Huh? Many of us knew Smith could help get the Chiefs to the playoffs. I said as much when they acquired him, all those close losses would tip the other way as we win the turnover differential. The problem is that's his CEILING. Mahomes can help a loaded roster compete yearly for a title if he even comes close to tapping into his potential.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I think this is a false statement. The vast majority of this board knew/felt he was the best QB available at that time, but was the 'safe' way to go and didn't really want a re-tread....and those opposed to him were willing to take a step back for a younger QB with a higher ceiling or go with a diffrent ree-tread (cheaper) QB who didn't cost so much (2 great second round picks + 60 million) and try and build more towards the future than for a 'now' that they saw as impossible - and turned out to be impossible in reality.

Phrasing the argument in the terms that the 'majority' of CP thought there was a better QB at THAT TIME is false, IMO.

I see your point. But other than the high price, I would disagree...and So did Dorsey and Andy. Until now.....

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by temper11

The niners didn't lose me as a fan. I'm still a fan - and excited by the direction of the "new" team. I just also wish to see Smith win the whole damned thing - with the Chiefs? - fine by me.

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets fulfilled.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Huh? Many of us knew Smith could help get the Chiefs to the playoffs. I said as much when they acquired him, all those close losses would tip the other way as we win the turnover differential. The problem is that's his CEILING. Mahomes can help a loaded roster compete yearly for a title if he even comes close to tapping into his potential.

Well said.

[burt]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets fulfilled.

unproductive AND messy!!

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by temper11

I hope he wins the whole f--cking thing. I know all of you say that's not possible... but I had the exact conversation for a few years with people that said:

- Smith was not capable of leading a team to a winning season, then,
- Smith was not capable of winning a playoff game, then
- Smith will never make a pro-bowl, then
- Smith would not be able to continue his success because the league has figured him out, then
- Smith will not be able to lead the Chiefs out of the cellar,
- Smith would never get the Chiefs to the playoffs, then
- Smith would never win a playoff game with the Chiefs, and of course the final two
- No team can get to the super bowl with Smith under center,
- Smith will never win a super bowl.

So... that's fine, I get that you guys have no faith in him. Hope he dies in an aids infested dumpster - that's also for some reason on fire - whatever. But I've enjoyed following his career and still think he has enough to check those last two off the list with the Chiefs.

Im pretty sure you made up most of those....especially like 'leading us out of the cellar' and 'continuing success' or 'pro bowl' ..even the winnign season is a stretch because peopel were preticting 9 game winnign seasons, even his biggest detractors like me....I dont think i ever predicted he would win less than 9 games (a winning season).....i think most knew he would lead us to mediocrity at least

You are just making things up that maybe a few fringe trolls said to try and 'win' an argument.....I mean the guy did win a playoff game against houston..and broke the 20+ year curse. I absolutely give him credit for that..and I also give him credit for winning regular season games, more than I thought we would win...I also fully acknowledge that especially 1st season if we had any other QB we wouldve won a game or 2 less for sure at least...

NO ONE sane is saying otherwise...there is no need for you to make things up here..the situation is what it is...I won't even say its completely impossible for us to win a superbowl this season..but to me it seems highly unlikely....Which is why I never wanted Smith in the 1st place...

I would've personally rather gone lean 1-2 more years rather than have a couple of 1 & done seasons that to me are meaningless...But the franchise is stable now and we did break the curse. I do give thanks to smith for his part in that, but its time to move on...and I think that his chances of winning the superbowl this season are slim at best...but I won't say never because it is a team game.

[rico]

Originally Posted by temper11

I hope he wins the whole f--cking thing. I know all of you say that's not possible... but I had the exact conversation for a few years with people that said:

- Smith was not capable of leading a team to a winning season, then,
- Smith was not capable of winning a playoff game, then
- Smith will never make a pro-bowl, then
- Smith would not be able to continue his success because the league has figured him out, then
- Smith will not be able to lead the Chiefs out of the cellar,
- Smith would never get the Chiefs to the playoffs, then
- Smith would never win a playoff game with the Chiefs, and of course the final two
- No team can get to the super bowl with Smith under center,
- Smith will never win a super bowl.

So... that's fine, I get that you guys have no faith in him, and hope he dies in an aids infested dumpster - that's also for some reason on fire - whatever. But I've enjoyed following his career and still think he has enough to check those last two off the list with the Chiefs.

That's fine...I really don't have a problem with anything you have posted, whether I share your opinion or not.

Out of curiosity (honest question), were you and other 49er fans expecting Chiefs fans to be more welcoming to the idea of trading for Smith? Did it surprise you that the majority at CP was upset that we acquired him? Or were you already used to it with the hate he received in San Francisco?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets fulfilled.

Sounds like a Shower shit cup o poodle

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by burt

I see your point. But other than the high price, I would disagree...and So did Dorsey and Andy. Until now.....

Well I do not fault them for going that route...to some degree..Coming off of the horrid seasons they did need someone to NOT LOSE. They got that..They were having a hard time sellign seats for the 1st time in years...I mean the franchise was in free fall. Alex Smith is a good choice for that purpose....I don't think a lot of fans couldve tolerated another risk at QB and possible fail and more 2-14 or 4-12 seasons.....

I realize I am in the minority on that, but I would've rather gone trhough a couple more horrible seasons and swung the bat a couple times but hey here we are 4 years later and we did break the 93 curse ...so all in all i am good with it...its just time to move on is all.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Alex best shot at a title is taking a drastic pay cut whilst Mahomes leads us to the promised land.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets fulfilled.

Have you not wished for the Chiefs to finally draft their QBOTF for years? Was that not just fulfilled? Did your Royals somewhat recently win the World Series? How many times did you trot out this gem on Royals boards before that happened?

Shitting in your hand is certainly more immediate, so if immediate is what you are looking for, don't let me stop you.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

You can wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one gets fulfilled.

what if one of your wishes is not to have shit on your hand

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Im pretty sure you made up most of those....especially like 'leading us out of the cellar' and 'continuing success' or 'pro bowl' ..even the winnign season is a stretch because peopel were preticting 9 game winnign seasons, even his biggest detractors like me....I dont think i ever predicted he would win less than 9 games (a winning season).....i think most knew he would lead us to mediocrity at least

You are just making things up that maybe a few fringe trolls said to try and 'win' an argument.....I mean the guy did win a playoff game against houston..and broke the 20+ year curse. I absolutely give him credit for that..and I also give him credit for winning regular season games, more than I thought we would win...I also fully acknowledge that especially 1st season if we had any other QB we wouldve won a game or 2 less for sure at least...

NO ONE sane is saying otherwise...there is no need for you to make things up here..the situation is what it is...I won't even say its completely impossible for us to win a superbowl this season..but to me it seems highly unlikely....Which is why I never wanted Smith in the 1st place...

I would've personally rather gone lean 1-2 more years rather than have a couple of 1 & done seasons that to me are meaningless...But the franchise is stable now and we did break the curse. I do give thanks to smith for his part in that, but its time to move on...and I think that his chances of winning the superbowl this season are slim at best...but I won't say never because it is a team game.

I should have clarified that much of those conversations were on SF boards... ask your pal Kaepernick or Harbernick or whatever he goes by here. Some of the latter items were conversations from here, but that list has accumulated since about 2007 or 8. The message board has changed, but the animosity is pretty much the same.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Their Niners stupidly pass on Mahomes and THEN he steals their precious Alex's job...ouch