Chiefs Realistic expectations for Patrick Mahomes - Page 12

**TimBone** · 04-21-2018, 04:51 PM

I know in the hearts of every planeteer, Mahomes has already led us to multiple Super Bowls, and that this whole career thing is just a formality before his HOF induction ceremony, but what is everyone realistically looking for from him this season?

Maybe I'm just letting my battered fan syndrome take over, but I feel like we need to pump the brakes a little bit. He looked solid against Denver, sure, but he's still just a second year guy that was pretty raw coming out of college.

So, what kind of numbers would everyone be happy with? What kind of things will you all be personally looking for from him?

Lastly, if you think I'm being a pussy and need to shut up and buckle up for the Mahomes show, please hit me with your best neg rep. The funnier the better.

BlackOp · 04-23-2018, 12:48 AM

He put up 284 on the road, in freezing temps against a divisional rival, in his first ever game...and didn't play every series. He also did that without Hill, Watkins, Kelce and Hunt (1st series).

284 x 16 = 4544

4000 is his floor.

He threw for over 700 yards in a single game...dudes a baller.

kccrow · 04-23-2018, 01:14 AM

I personally think the kid is going to light it up, but with that is going to come some interceptions.

Give me 4,400 yards, 29 TD and 19 INT.

Nickhead · 04-23-2018, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp

He put up 284 on the road, in freezing temps against a divisional rival, in his first ever game...and didn't play every series. He also did that without Hill, Watkins, Kelce and Hunt (1st series).

284 x 16 = 4544

4000 is his floor.

He threw for over 700 yards in a single game...dudes a baller.

don't short the guy, he had over 800 yards in that game alone

Rasputin · 04-23-2018, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I personally think the kid is going to light it up, but with that is going to come some interceptions.

Give me 4,400 yards, 29 TD and 19 INT.

He didn't throw a lot of intercepted in college so I'm not really expecting a lot of them even his first couple of years however if he does it's a learning experience and coaches have praised the kid for not making same mistakes and I know he can make up for them anyway.

All these years waiting for a draft pick prospect I can't believe he's here and could be better than imagine.

Rasputin · 04-23-2018, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I don’t care about his yards. But I will literally put money down he throws over 30 TDS. He’s gonna break the Chiefs record in his first full season.

Put this post in NSFW reads like a Penthouse Forum.

**Buehler445** · 04-23-2018, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

It’s very hard to peg the potential statistics that he puts up this year. I’m not sure we’ve ever seen a first year QB with a surrounding cast that good.

Casshole in NE probably did.

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

He didn't throw a lot of intercepted in college so I'm not really expecting a lot of them even his first couple of years however if he does it's a learning experience and coaches have praised the kid for not making same mistakes and I know he can make up for them anyway.

All these years waiting for a draft pick prospect I can't believe he's here and could be better than imagine.

It was Big 12 defense and TT. Different animal. There will be INTs.

Shoes · 04-23-2018, 09:46 AM

My expectations for Mahomes is ~4000 yards with 28 passing touchdowns. Maybe the comparable isn't perfect since Rodgers had a couple more years of being the backup behind Favre but I think rookie Aaron Rodgers numbers is what we can expect. Probably a few more interceptions than we would like to see (my guess is around 13 INTs).

We are going polar opposite from way too conservative Alex Smith to an ultra aggressive Patrick Mahomes, even in the Denver game there were a couple decisions that were too risky (deep to Harris on the last drive, across his body to Sherman in the start of the 4th). I think we'll fare better team wise than Green Bay did in Rodgers first year though at 6-10. I have the Chiefs being around 9-7, we'll see how the draft goes.

Halfcan · 04-23-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I personally think the kid is going to light it up, but with that is going to come some interceptions.

Give me 4,400 yards, 29 TD and 19 INT.

This is lighting it up?

Less than 300 ypg average. 1.8 Td's a game with 1.2 Int average.

Kinda shitty really.

Shoes · 04-23-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

This is lighting it up?

Less than 300 ypg average. 1.8 Td's a game with 1.2 Int average.

Kinda shitty really.

4400 yards and 29 TD's would be top 5 in both categories respectively. 19 INT's is quite a bit though.

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-23-2018, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

This is lighting it up?

Less than 300 ypg average. 1.8 Td's a game with 1.2 Int average.

Kinda shitty really.

no., not really

thats a great season for any rookie, probably top 1% to ever play the game

why dont you list all the rookies that have had 4400 yards passing and 30 TD

ill wait here

Halfcan · 04-23-2018, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

no., not really

thats a great season for any rookie, probably top 1% to ever play the game

why dont you list all the rookies that have had 4400 yards passing and 30 TD

ill wait here

Mahomes is not a rookie.

So you are saying past stats from other QB's can predict what Mahomes will do? Interesting.

I am sure Andy is expecting him to throw at least 2 TDs a game with all of those weapons and a solid running game- do you think they would have moved up in the draft for a QB if they thought he could not even average 2 TD's a game? They just traded a guy that couldn't do it.

raybec 4 · 04-23-2018, 03:42 PM

6700 yds, 59td 3 int, book it! Chiefs go 9-7 and miss the playoffs because they give up a league record 62 field goals in the Pittsburgh game.

Pasta Little Brioni · 04-23-2018, 03:44 PM

10,567 yards 76TD

**Ming the Merciless** · 04-23-2018, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan

Mahomes is not a rookie.

So you are saying past stats from other QB's can predict what Mahomes will do? Interesting.

I am sure Andy is expecting him to throw at least 2 TDs a game

picking some arbitrary number is stupid

if he NEEDS to throw 2 TD a game he will try...but what if we dont need to? I seriously doubt one of the top 10 goals for mahomes is focusing on throwing 2 td per game

its much more fundamental than that - reads, audibles, mastering the playbook under stress, technical / mechanical improvements etc...

sure, he might throw 2 TD a game and break the KC record for TD's by a QB.

hell if he doesnt do it this year i bet he will do it at some point...but I dont think youre correct in saying that is expected of him

edit: and fine he has played in 1 game...so he isnt a rookie .but this is his 1st season as the starter......so show me this list of guys who have played in 1 game or less and then get 4400 yards in their 1st season as starter...is it a pretty long list of QB's? I heard marino did it in 1984 ...but he started 10 games the year prior

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-23-2018, 03:45 PM

I just want to see him get better every week/learn from his mistakes.

If that happens, the stats will come.

04-21-2018, 04:51 PM
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04-23-2018, 12:48 AM	#166
BlackOp MVP Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $5875267	He put up 284 on the road, in freezing temps against a divisional rival, in his first ever game...and didn't play every series. He also did that without Hill, Watkins, Kelce and Hunt (1st series). 284 x 16 = 4544 4000 is his floor. He threw for over 700 yards in a single game...dudes a baller.
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04-23-2018, 01:14 AM	#167
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3227078	I personally think the kid is going to light it up, but with that is going to come some interceptions. Give me 4,400 yards, 29 TD and 19 INT.
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04-23-2018, 09:46 AM	#172
Shoes Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $4669690	My expectations for Mahomes is ~4000 yards with 28 passing touchdowns. Maybe the comparable isn't perfect since Rodgers had a couple more years of being the backup behind Favre but I think rookie Aaron Rodgers numbers is what we can expect. Probably a few more interceptions than we would like to see (my guess is around 13 INTs). We are going polar opposite from way too conservative Alex Smith to an ultra aggressive Patrick Mahomes, even in the Denver game there were a couple decisions that were too risky (deep to Harris on the last drive, across his body to Sherman in the start of the 4th). I think we'll fare better team wise than Green Bay did in Rodgers first year though at 6-10. I have the Chiefs being around 9-7, we'll see how the draft goes. Last edited by Shoes; 04-23-2018 at 12:35 PM.. Reason: slight change to predictions.
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04-23-2018, 03:45 PM	#180
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4901115	I just want to see him get better every week/learn from his mistakes. If that happens, the stats will come.
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