Football ***2024 NFL Free Agency*** - Page 10

JohnnyHammersticks · 02-27-2024, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

Can somebody create a “2024 Free Agency” thread, please. Thanks in advance

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MahomesMagic · 03-02-2024, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

And drops a lot of footballs.

Fake News.

**ChiefGator** · 03-02-2024, 01:30 PM

Mooney is not a top-notch receiver... more like a top-notch dropper...

Amirite??

(Sorry, just wanted to keep the fake news going...)

MahomesMagic · 03-02-2024, 01:38 PM

Mooney would be a massive upgrade over any WR not named Rice here.

UChieffyBugger · 03-02-2024, 01:43 PM

Mooney is an obvious fit. He's got speed, is an intelligent route runner, can make difficult catches and works inside and outside. His talent with Pat could really turn him into a very good receiver imo. Plus he had his best year with Nagy as HC.

duncan_idaho · 03-02-2024, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

And drops a lot of footballs.

Drop info:

2020: 98 targets, 1 drop, 1.0 drop %
2021: 140 targets, 9 drops, 6.4%
2022: 61 targets, 2 drops, 3.3%
2023: 61 targets, 3 drops, 4.9%

Career: 350 targets, 15 drops, 4.3% drop rate

League average for WRs is like 7.3%.

The idea that Mooney has a drops issue is as off-base as it gets.

staylor26 · 03-02-2024, 02:04 PM

The thing about Mooney is that he would allow you to possibly target one of these big WRs in the draft too. That or you just continue adding speed.

RunKC · 03-02-2024, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

The thing about Mooney is that he would allow you to possibly target one of these big WRs in the draft too. That or you just continue adding speed.

Exactly what I want to do. Mooney and Hardman as the speed and a faster guy who can give you some of that Rice did would be nice, especially with Kelce’s age

MahomesMagic · 03-02-2024, 02:09 PM

Adonai and Rashee can bully people and Mooney, Slayton can stretch the field.

duncan_idaho · 03-02-2024, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Exactly what I want to do. Mooney and Hardman as the speed and a faster guy who can give you some of that Rice did would be nice, especially with Kelce’s age

Mooney + a Hardman return + Round 2 WR seems like a pretty nice approach to fixing WR to me.

Hardman does the gadget/motion stuff. Mooney is the Z receiver. Rice is the bully slot. Round 2 WR plays outside.

Someone like Xavier Legette or Brendan Rice would be pretty nice fits in that situation.

I'm warming up to Rice. I like the size, I want to see if he runs in the 4.3s as expected, and I keep seeing him show good instincts on play extensions. That's going to matter as long as 15 is taking snaps.

philfree · 03-02-2024, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Drop info:

2020: 98 targets, 1 drop, 1.0 drop %
2021: 140 targets, 9 drops, 6.4%
2022: 61 targets, 2 drops, 3.3%
2023: 61 targets, 3 drops, 4.9%

Career: 350 targets, 15 drops, 4.3% drop rate

League average for WRs is like 7.3%.

The idea that Mooney has a drops issue is as off-base as it gets.

61 targets for 31 receptions probably bears some scrutiny. Some of that is on the QB but still 50% catch rate isn't very good.

smithandrew051 · 03-02-2024, 02:11 PM

Mooney’s decline in production is probably due to Fields being so bad.

If he had a big season with the Chiefs, he could probably be in line for either a big extension or monster deal from some other team next year.

He might be wise to take a reasonable 1-year with the Chiefs and get paid the following season.

RunKC · 03-02-2024, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Mooney + a Hardman return + Round 2 WR seems like a pretty nice approach to fixing WR to me.

Hardman does the gadget/motion stuff. Mooney is the Z receiver. Rice is the bully slot. Round 2 WR plays outside.

Someone like Xavier Legette or Brendan Rice would be pretty nice fits in that situation.

I'm warming up to Rice. I like the size, I want to see if he runs in the 4.3s as expected, and I keep seeing him show good instincts on play extensions. That's going to matter as long as 15 is taking snaps.

A lot of people don’t want him but man McConkey is a really good route runner with natural catching ability. He’s also really smart. 6 ft 192 lbs.

Would really fit in well here assuming we got our MVS replacement already

MahomesMagic · 03-02-2024, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

A lot of people don’t want him but man McConkey is a really good route runner with natural catching ability. He’s also really smart. 6 ft 192 lbs.

Would really fit in well here assuming we got our MVS replacement already

I like any WR that runs good routes and catches the ball.

The issue is value.

Would I want to spend a 1st on a slot guy instead of a #1 WR?

**BossChief** · 03-02-2024, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I’m not sure why this is the common thought with Mooney, but it is not accurate.

He has a career drop rate of about 4.1 percent, league average is about 7.5, and his only season AT or ABOVE that rate was a few years ago.

Over his career, he has caught 59% of the passes he’s been targeted in. Last year was barely 50%. That was the lowest on the team and Mooney had been there the longest.

Moore was at 71% with the same QB

Fields completed 63% of his passes to everyone else last year and barely 50% to Mooney.

I think I’d rather just see them bring Mecole back…or even Richie James.

MahomesMagic · 03-02-2024, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Over his career, he has caught 59% of the passes he’s been targeted in. Last year was barely 50%. That was the lowest on the team and Mooney had been there the longest.

Moore was at 71% with the same QB

Fields completed 63% of his passes to everyone else last year and barely 50% to Mooney.

I think I’d rather just see them bring Mecole back…or even Richie James.

Why not just keep giving snaps to Skyy Moore.

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