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Old 12-02-2020, 08:21 AM  
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Package Deal with Bienemy and Dorsey?
Sources tell Matt Lombardo of FanSided that Eric Bieniemy and John Dorsey could be a package deal.
The upcoming hiring season should begin in the next few weeks in the NFL as one of several frustrated teams hungry for new leadership will make the first move to hire a new regime. For one team, it could include a reunion of former and current Kansas City Chiefs employees.

Matt Lombardo, National NFL columnist for FanSided, has word that former Chiefs general manager John Dorsey and current offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy might make themselves available as a package deal of sorts for a team looking to recreate the stable success of Kansas City.

https://arrowheadaddict.com/2020/12/...deal-new-team/

Interesting. So if that is the case Bienemy would be looking for a place with a HC and GM opening..
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:22 PM   #121
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It doesn't "help" EB at all. He's going to get legit offers with or without Dorsey.
Exactly.
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:22 PM   #122
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It doesn't "help" EB at all. He's going to get legit offers with or without Dorsey.
I took that to mean EB wouldn’t be saddled with a shit ass GM
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:22 PM   #123
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I’m not sure Bienemy gets hired
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:22 PM   #124
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I took that to mean WB wouldn’t be saddled with a shit ass GM
Pretty sure he was agreeing with me.
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:23 PM   #125
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Atlanta’s cap is intergalactically ****ed.

It's quite clear that the front office, coaching staff and players haven't been able to recover from their Super Bowl loss and they need to trade everyone of value, including Matt Ryan, and start over, much like the Dolphins have in the past year.

A clean slate removes any stigma from that loss and allows the entire franchise to be built from the ground up, without carrying the stigma and guilt from that loss.
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:32 PM   #126
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I really do not believe this story about a hiring connection between Dorsey and Bienemy. It would make no sense for Eric to limit his hiring possibilities to a team that would only hire John Dorsey to run the team.

Could they end up at the same place? They could, but as a team owner, the highest position I would give John Dorsey is Director of Pro Personnel or a position like that. I agree with others that he can be very good at seeing football talent, but his failure to manage the money and handle the PR, leaves him lacking at running the whole football operations.

The Atlanta Falcons might be a place for both of them. Arthur Blank is a pretty good owner. Atlanta parted ways with GM Thomas Dimitroff and 61 year old Rich McKay has been running the team. Perhaps Rich could continue running the team but allow John Dorsey to come in and get their football talent in order.

Atlanta could also be a good team for Eric Bienemy. With Matt Ryan already in place, the Falcons can do like the Chiefs and draft their QB of the future as they see a good opportunity to do so. The NFC South is ready for a change with the aging of Tom Brady and Drew Brees. It is open for the Atlanta Falcons.

Houston Texans would be a terrible place for Eric Bienemy to go. They have Cal McNair as the owner. They have traded away their draft picks as-well-as some of their better players. The NFL cap for next year is projected at between $176,000,000 to $178,000,000 and the Texans will probably have to cut even further some of their better players.
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I mean....they're sitting at 8-3 right now with a roster that was mostly built by Dorsey....
I agree, but he had a full deck. Tons of picks and tons of money.

The whole “Dorsey set up this team” bc he was GM is not factual. It’s partially fact. I think we did so well bc Andy brought his outstanding coaching staff of 2 current HC’s and 2 future HC’s with him and Dorsey brought in key guys.

Ballard is a good GM and Dorsey brought him here. Dorsey was also able to snag a couple of the Seahawks personnel guys from their amazing personnel run and those guys helped us find nice cheap role players like Spencer Ware and Ron Parker.

It wasn’t a “Dorsey did this” or “Veach did that” deal. It was just an amazing personnel and coaching staff that worked together and kicked ass.
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Old 12-02-2020, 02:45 PM   #128
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I mean....they're sitting at 8-3 right now with a roster that was mostly built by Dorsey....
And had they taken Josh Allen instead of Mayfield and Bradley Chubb instead of Ward, that team would be among the best in the AFC.

As it stands, they are 8-3 with one quality win over the Colts, which may or may not turn out to be "quality" after all.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:29 PM   #129
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EB would be dumb to hitch his wagon to Dorsey. Dorsey is a decent talent evaluator but is literally not good at being an executive. Great scout, not a good GM.
Left KC with alot of talent Cleveland too
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:34 PM   #130
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Left KC with alot of talent Cleveland too
Again, nobody is questioning the talent scout part of it.

He left KC in cap hell and he got fired in Cleveland for making one of the worst HC hires in recent memory.

If you want to say he'd make a great personnel director, I won't argue.

He's a TERRIBLE GM because a general manager has a lot more to do than just the draft.
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Again, nobody is questioning the talent scout part of it.

He left KC in cap hell and he got fired in Cleveland for making one of the worst HC hires in recent memory.

If you want to say he'd make a great personnel director, I won't argue.

He's a TERRIBLE GM because a general manager has a lot more to do than just the draft.
That kind of talent with a good coach wins alot of games at the end of the day that's all that matters.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:38 PM   #132
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That kind of talent with a good coach wins alot of games at the end of the day that's all that matters.
He hired the coach in Cleveland and they went 6-10 with nearly the same roster that's now 8-3.

So no, that's not all that matters.
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He hired the coach in Cleveland and they went 6-10 with nearly the same roster that's now 8-3.

So no, that's not all that matters.
If EB is a good coach with Dorseys roster building ability whatever team hires them will win alot of games.
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Old 12-02-2020, 03:49 PM   #134
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If EB is a good coach with Dorseys roster building ability whatever team hires them will win alot of games.
Do you really think Dorsey wants to go somewhere and have a coach handed to him? He was forced out of not one but TWO GM jobs because of power struggles over who calls the shots.

It's not gonna happen.
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Dorsey a good GM? Lol. He's so good two teams canned him.
Two teams that were stacked with talent after he was let go. Both teams are doing great because of the talent they have now. Maybe, he was just lucky but I'm guessing a team like the Lions would like to see some of that "Luck".

He's possibly learned from his cap mistakes or will bring someone in to help him improve in that area. Or maybe not and he's just an arrogant prick who will continue on with his same ways.

I still think he'll get another chance.
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