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Old 10-06-2013, 11:01 PM  
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Better Call Saul



As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

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Old 04-16-2016, 12:15 PM   #961
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That's what makes this show so great. Most of the people in it operate in the gray area.
Don't most decent shows present their characters as "operating in the gray area" as to make them relatable/realistic? BCS is outstanding across the board, but I'm not sure they should get extra credit (or defining credit) for doing what good shows/books typically do.
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Old 04-16-2016, 09:56 PM   #962
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Don't most decent shows present their characters as "operating in the gray area" as to make them relatable/realistic? BCS is outstanding across the board, but I'm not sure they should get extra credit (or defining credit) for doing what good shows/books typically do.
Doesn't happen nearly enough. Especially with side characters. Probably explains the rise of superhero movies where there's a clear hero and a clear villain. Lots of shows/movies these days seem to pick sides. Frank Underwood in House of Cards, for example, is 100% sleazeball. Lots of movies/shows made lame attempts to force some gray area.

And Gilligan does more than just make his characters relatable. Most of his characters seem to have fatal flaws. And it's amazing to watch his progression. I remember when he forced the Marie shoplifting storyline in season 1 of BB. Gilligan has you rooting against the good guys like Hank and Chuck, two guys who generally do the right thing, but their fatal flaw bugs the crap out of a lot of people. That's pretty amazing character development.
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Old 04-18-2016, 05:16 PM   #963
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So, some people have quite a bit of time on their hands...

From a website, but I forget which, I just copied the interesting tidbit.

I don’t typically like anagram theories, but this one is too hard to resist. A Redditor, cassieboy81, rearranged all the episode titles this season, and came up with a mind-blowing possibility:

Fifi
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“Fring’s Back.”



Back from the dead.

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Gilligan and Gould confirmed this today on the Rich Eisen Show.
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Old 04-18-2016, 08:10 PM   #964
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Gilligan and Gould confirmed this today on the Rich Eisen Show.
Awesome.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:04 PM   #965
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Excellent episode.


Chuck has Jimmy by the balls.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:05 PM   #966
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Excellent episode.


Chuck has Jimmy by the balls.
I was yelling at my TV: "DON'T TELL HIM! DON'T TELL HIM!".

Damn Chuck!
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:08 PM   #967
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Pretty hard to be on "team chuck" these days. Jimmy = white whale. He's about to create a monster that didn't need to be created.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:15 PM   #968
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I am guessing that Chuck is going to require Jimmy to drop the family name if he continues to practice.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:26 PM   #969
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Vince Gilligan just said that they don't have anything mapped out or planned out when it comes to story or introducing BB characters. He said it would be easier to pre-plan it, but ultimately he is afraid that it will restrict their creativity and ideas.

They wrote BB the exact same way.
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Old 04-18-2016, 09:37 PM   #970
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Wow what a finale. Jimmy is so screwed...Chuck really hates Jimmy. Never even told him his mother said his name.
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Sorry DJ, I'm kind of off team chuck. Jimmy is a largely a shitbag, but Chuck is approaching pathological.
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Old 04-18-2016, 10:29 PM   #972
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Old 04-18-2016, 11:00 PM   #973
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Sorry DJ, I'm kind of off team chuck. Jimmy is a largely a shitbag, but Chuck is approaching pathological.
Not sure how/why people were on "team chuck" in the first place; he's a complete piece of shit as a brother. It's not like this is a new revelation.
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On the Mike side: who the hell would have known Mike would be on the side of a mountain with a sniper rifle besides one of the guys that was in his cross hairs and exactly who was he looking to shoot? Nacho makes more sense than Hector because it would erase any ties between the heist and Mike but Hector makes more sense from a revenge standpoint for threatening his niece.

Someone finally was a step ahead of Mike.
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On the Mike side: who the hell would have known Mike would be on the side of a mountain with a sniper rifle besides one of the guys that was in his cross hairs and exactly who was he looking to shoot? Nacho makes more sense than Hector because it would erase any ties between the heist and Mike but Hector makes more sense from a revenge standpoint for threatening his niece.

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