Let's talk WRs - Page 24

OldSchool · 09-19-2014, 09:52 AM

Who's your top ranked receiver right now?

For me, the most pro-ready and best all around prospect at WR is Amari Cooper. He would come in and immediately start across from Bowe and eventually replace him as the primary WR.

What's wrong with Sammy Coates?

The guy has all of the tools in the world, I would equate him to Vernon Davis but at the WR position, but he hasn't produced much at all this season. Coates isn't even close to being his team's leading receiver so I'm not going to blame it on the scheme. Physically, Coates looks like a top 10 pick but his production is that of a mid to late rounder. Where would you take him?

Any thoughts on Coates' teammate, D'haquille Williams?

There is a massive difference in production between he and Sammy Coates so far this year; yes, this could be entirely due to Coates being injured from the Arkansas game but Coates only caught one pass in that game and dropped a possible TD pass despite playing 52 snaps against the Razorbacks. Williams is a JUCO transfer with good size, speed, and explosiveness, though not on the same level as Coates as far as pure physical ability goes. Is he a potential #1 WR or just a 2 at best?

Does DGB declare? If so, do you even dare to touch him given his off-field issues?

Despite not playing this season, I think that there is a real possibility that DGB does declare for the 2015 NFL draft; he just doesn't seem like the type of person who would be willing to go through another year of college over getting paid as a pro athlete. If he does declare, what round would you be willing to take a risk on him? The guy has had problems with at least two key NFL issues, abuse of women and weed. DGB has top 5 talent but an off-field reputation that would have him banned from the league if he had committed those acts as a Pro.

Do Jaelen Strong, Kevin White, or Devante Parker have enough speed to be potential #1 WRs? If not, are their other gifts good enough for them to be close to what Larry Fitzgerald has been in the league?

Is Stefon Diggs actually that fast? When I watch him, I don't see the same dimension of speed that guys like Jackson, Wallace, etc have. I'll be very curious to see what he actually runs at the Combine.

Who are you guys keeping your eyes on this year at the WR position?

Jakemall · 03-25-2015, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Dwayne Bowe v2.

Dwayne Bowe ran a 4.4 or better?? I don't believe it.

Jakemall · 03-25-2015, 12:53 PM

By the way, I read his weaknesses as being his route running and other skills being extremely raw.

I find that kinda surprising considering his father played WR for 10 years in the NFL.

OldSchool · 03-25-2015, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakemall

Dwayne Bowe ran a 4.4 or better?? I don't believe it.

Not his speed, just how he plays. Inconsistent ball skills & hands, bad routes, etc.

jonzie04 · 03-25-2015, 01:02 PM

well that sucks hes a goner in the 1st for sure. i would have loved to have gone something like collins, and then perriman or mcbride.

btw he and bowe arent even close to the same type of player... perriman doesn't have legitmate 4.2 speed, but he's extremely explosive. an acrobatic, high flying type of receiver.

jonzie04 · 03-25-2015, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Not his speed, just how he plays. Inconsistent ball skills & hands, bad routes, etc.

no, thats a silly way to call two receivers the same... by your definition dewayne bowe and desean jackson are the same as jackson also has inconsistent hands, ball skills, and runs poor routes.

OldSchool · 03-25-2015, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04

no, thats a silly way to call two receivers the same... by your definition dewayne bowe and desean jackson are the same as jackson also has inconsistent hands, ball skills, and runs poor routes.

Just watch him play dude, you'll see it.

O.city · 03-25-2015, 01:12 PM

Perriman has bad hands though right? Pass

jonzie04 · 03-25-2015, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Just watch him play dude, you'll see it.

i've seen him play in several games... he and bowe aren't even remotely similar type of receivers. is he inconsistent? sure. but that and i suppose body type is about where the similarities end.

jonzie04 · 03-25-2015, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Perriman has bad hands though right? Pass

incorrect. he has inconsistent hands, but his hands are great.

milkman · 03-25-2015, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04

incorrect. he has inconsistent hands, but his hands are great.

How can one have both great and inconsistent hands?

OldSchool · 03-25-2015, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04

incorrect. he has inconsistent hands, but his hands are great.

OldSchool · 03-25-2015, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Perriman has bad hands though right? Pass

Per rotoworld:

Quote:

UCF WR Breshad Perriman had a drop rate of 12.96% in 2014, according to PFF.
That is terrible. The sample size might be smaller than others, as Perriman dropped seven of 54 catchable passes, but PFF has a tendency to side with the receiver on what exactly is "catchable." Perriman would have generated more buzz if he worked out at the Combine and still has a shot at being a late first-round selection, but very poor drop rates tend to carry over to the NFL - at least early on. Mar 4 - 10:13 AM

jonzie04 · 03-25-2015, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

How can one have both great and inconsistent hands?

It's entire subjective.. To me having great hands = having the ability to make ridiculously acrobatic catches, tough catches in traffic etc.

Inconsistent hands = lapse in concentration from time to time. Trying to turn and run before the ball is caught.

Terel Owens is the ultimate example of having great, but inconsistent hands.

Nightfyre · 03-25-2015, 01:30 PM

I call bullshit on a 4.26 40 from Perriman.

kccrow · 03-25-2015, 01:45 PM

If you told me Perriman ran a 4.46 forty, I'd believe it. 4.26? No way in hell.

09-19-2014, 09:52 AM
OldSchool MVP Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10035212	Let's talk WRs Who's your top ranked receiver right now? For me, the most pro-ready and best all around prospect at WR is Amari Cooper. He would come in and immediately start across from Bowe and eventually replace him as the primary WR. What's wrong with Sammy Coates? The guy has all of the tools in the world, I would equate him to Vernon Davis but at the WR position, but he hasn't produced much at all this season. Coates isn't even close to being his team's leading receiver so I'm not going to blame it on the scheme. Physically, Coates looks like a top 10 pick but his production is that of a mid to late rounder. Where would you take him? Any thoughts on Coates' teammate, D'haquille Williams? There is a massive difference in production between he and Sammy Coates so far this year; yes, this could be entirely due to Coates being injured from the Arkansas game but Coates only caught one pass in that game and dropped a possible TD pass despite playing 52 snaps against the Razorbacks. Williams is a JUCO transfer with good size, speed, and explosiveness, though not on the same level as Coates as far as pure physical ability goes. Is he a potential #1 WR or just a 2 at best? Does DGB declare? If so, do you even dare to touch him given his off-field issues? Despite not playing this season, I think that there is a real possibility that DGB does declare for the 2015 NFL draft; he just doesn't seem like the type of person who would be willing to go through another year of college over getting paid as a pro athlete. If he does declare, what round would you be willing to take a risk on him? The guy has had problems with at least two key NFL issues, abuse of women and weed. DGB has top 5 talent but an off-field reputation that would have him banned from the league if he had committed those acts as a Pro. Do Jaelen Strong, Kevin White, or Devante Parker have enough speed to be potential #1 WRs? If not, are their other gifts good enough for them to be close to what Larry Fitzgerald has been in the league? Is Stefon Diggs actually that fast? When I watch him, I don't see the same dimension of speed that guys like Jackson, Wallace, etc have. I'll be very curious to see what he actually runs at the Combine. Who are you guys keeping your eyes on this year at the WR position?
Posts: 12,727

03-25-2015, 12:53 PM	#347
Jakemall Veteran Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Los Angeles Casino cash: $10010313	By the way, I read his weaknesses as being his route running and other skills being extremely raw. I find that kinda surprising considering his father played WR for 10 years in the NFL.
Posts: 2,454

03-25-2015, 01:02 PM	#349
jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5796817	well that sucks hes a goner in the 1st for sure. i would have loved to have gone something like collins, and then perriman or mcbride. btw he and bowe arent even close to the same type of player... perriman doesn't have legitmate 4.2 speed, but he's extremely explosive. an acrobatic, high flying type of receiver.
Posts: 6,779

03-25-2015, 01:12 PM	#352
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2604064	Perriman has bad hands though right? Pass
Posts: 81,359

03-25-2015, 01:30 PM	#359
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $3508849	I call bullshit on a 4.26 40 from Perriman.
Posts: 18,558

03-25-2015, 01:45 PM	#360
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $3097078	If you told me Perriman ran a 4.46 forty, I'd believe it. 4.26? No way in hell.
Posts: 12,675