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Old 09-29-2018, 01:06 PM  
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Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel

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REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.

By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

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Old 10-17-2018, 12:38 PM   #736
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Heel be fine. Guys, don't be so sore about it.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:38 PM   #737
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UFC fighter Dominick Cruz had the same injury he said he would literally have to crawl to the tub. Antonio Gates had a similar injury dont think he was ever the same.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:38 PM   #738
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I dont mean to be a smart ass but why does everyone on here without any medical knowledge continue to suggest he needs surgery?

Because there is couple of people here that actually had this exact same thing, CaliforniaChief, being one that said only surgery can fix it or that is what fixed them.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:38 PM   #739
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This isnt true at all.
Yep.

NSAIDs help but not enough to prevent pain altogether. And cortisone shots would weaken the tissue, which could cause the Achilles to tear.

"Needling up" doesn't solve anything in this case.
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Old 10-17-2018, 12:53 PM   #740
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I think it's pretty clear, really, that Berry has played his last meaningful football.
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:00 PM   #741
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Reading up on treatment for this it is basically rest, PT, different shoes. If that doesn't work and pain is still there then surgery.
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Old 10-17-2018, 01:01 PM   #742
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Everyone assuming the bone deformity is the problem and not the bursa being inflamed.
No, the problem is he isn't playing and he's taking up a roster spot. The rest isn't important.
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It's like having one bullet in the chamber. We aren't rolling him out for a Bengals game, they'll bring him in playoffs
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Berry and Houston have a combined cap number of almost $38 million in 2019. Hitchens has a $9.5 million cap number next year, and Sorensen is at a little under $5 million. We're paying roughly $50 million next year for complete shit. My God we have some horrible contracts.
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Yes, I'm sure he'll be completely ready to play come playoff time after 2 years and no game action. **** Berry, he needs to be gone. He's not a ullet in the chamber, he's a bullet in the ass dragging down the team.
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It's like having one bullet in the chamber. We aren't rolling him out for a Bengals game, they'll bring him in playoffs
so he can just magically come out and play full speed after not even practicing in years?
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UFC fighter Dominick Cruz had the same injury he said he would literally have to crawl to the tub. Antonio Gates had a similar injury dont think he was ever the same.
Cruz had plantar fasciatis. Oh, and even if he did have the same injury (he didn't), he fought with it. Gates also had a plantar fascia injury.

I mean sure - they're both sore feet, but they aren't the same thing.
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Cruz had plantar fasciatis. Oh, and even if he did have the same injury (he didn't), he fought with it. Gates also had a plantar fascia injury.

I mean sure - they're both sore feet, but they aren't the same thing.
So what you're saying is...Bashaud Breeland played with this injury and Berry can't. Well if Joel Embiid can recover from it I'm guessing Berry can.
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So what you're saying is...Bashaud Breeland played with this injury and Berry can't. Well if Joel Embiid can recover from it I'm guessing Berry can.
I think Berry has some fasciatis as a result of the issue, but it's an ancillary problem and not the primary one. Near as I can tell here, the fasciatis is probably something of a threshhold level of pretty steady, dull pain. The deformity is then complicating by adding more acute pain based on certain movements.

Now before a handful of dipshits in the thread ask for my medical license - this is simply based on what little has been made publicly available. That's to say...not a hell of a lot.

But it's also giving him the benefit of the doubt. Because if all it is is plantar fasciitis - dude, get your ass on the field. I believe it's probably more than that. I also believe that if he hadn't gotten paid already, he'd still be out there.
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