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Old 06-28-2023, 12:21 PM   #1
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...And I even thought movies like Kingdom of Heaven and Robin Hood were solid flicks...








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Old 06-28-2023, 07:48 PM   #2
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GI Jane and Exodus: Gods and Kings would disagree.

But the guy's hit rate is pretty unparalleled. And I even thought movies like Kingdom of Heaven and Robin Hood were solid flicks.

He's routinely hits the mark on his sci-fi and historical fiction movies. Combine that with a REALLY compelling (and has been noted, underutilized) central character and this movie could/should be awesome.
I actually kinda liked GI Jane, don't think I've seen Exodus
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Old 06-28-2023, 05:36 PM   #3
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The greatest thing Napolean's army did was discover the Rosetta Stone. I'm sure it won't be part of this movie like all the others
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Old 06-28-2023, 08:02 PM   #4
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It’s been a while but I remember the director’s cut of Kindom of Heaven actually being pretty good.
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Old 07-10-2023, 07:38 AM   #6
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I've never seen all of Waterloo, but I remember it being one of those grand epic films that you don't see anymore. I found this on youtube, History Buffs:



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Looking forward to seeing this. I like Pheonix a lot. Honestly, unless the writing sucks this should be a great one.
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Old 07-10-2023, 08:59 AM   #7
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I hope his history here is better than his "history" in Kingdom of Heaven.
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Old 07-10-2023, 11:05 AM   #8
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I hope his history here is better than his "history" in Kingdom of Heaven.
Yeah. While I love that movie, particularly the director's cut, I was disappointed to learn that it's about as accurate as Braveheart.

As for this, the trailer seemed a bit off. I kind of wonder if Phoenix is the right guy for this, but he's usually awesome in whatever he does. Seems like this would be more of a Tom Cruise role, but I guess he was busy.

If it gets good feedback I'll probably go see it.
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Old 07-10-2023, 02:44 PM   #9
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Yeah. While I love that movie, particularly the director's cut, I was disappointed to learn that it's about as accurate as Braveheart.

As for this, the trailer seemed a bit off. I kind of wonder if Phoenix is the right guy for this, but he's usually awesome in whatever he does. Seems like this would be more of a Tom Cruise role, but I guess he was busy.

If it gets good feedback I'll probably go see it.
Nah - gotta be Danny DeVito...

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Phoenix is the one thing that might mess it up. Oh, and the possibility of forcing a love-story into it.

Phoenix occasionally lapses into playing Johnny Cash as some other character. And from this trailer he kinda has that gravelly growl and hangdog countenance to him. If it's Joaquim Phoenix as Johnny Cash as Napoleon, that would be quite a bummer.
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Phoenix is the one thing that might mess it up. Oh, and the possibility of forcing a love-story into it.

Phoenix occasionally lapses into playing Johnny Cash as some other character. And from this trailer he kinda has that gravelly growl and hangdog countenance to him. If it's Joaquim Phoenix as Johnny Cash as Napoleon, that would be quite a bummer.
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They are going to force a Napoleon/Josephine love story. It is one of the most famous historical love affairs.
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They are going to force a Napoleon/Josephine love story. It is one of the most famous historical love affairs.
I know. But it's famous because Napoleon's exploits OUTSIDE of it are famous. Stand-alone, it's just another tryst.

So don't let it become the central tenant of a biopic.

If it's a movie about Napoleon, make it about Napoleon. Don't make it about Napoleon's relationship...oh, and there was a revolution and a couple battles and stuff...

Scott's usually pretty good about not overdoing that sort of thing, but the trailer makes me wonder.
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I know. But it's famous because Napoleon's exploits OUTSIDE of it are famous. Stand-alone, it's just another tryst.

So don't let it become the central tenant of a biopic.

If it's a movie about Napoleon, make it about Napoleon. Don't make it about Napoleon's relationship...oh, and there was a revolution and a couple battles and stuff...

Scott's usually pretty good about not overdoing that sort of thing, but the trailer makes me wonder.
I agree. But they mention the tryst in the studio packet release. It is going to be front and center.
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I agree. But they mention the tryst in the studio packet release. It is going to be front and center.
I wonder if they'll also establish that she was basically a power-hungry whore who slept her way into relevance...
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