Netflix: Making a Murderer

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I also think if Avery did it, he'd have used the smelter in the auto yard, not a fire pit. They'd have never found her remains encased in pot metal ingots.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I also think if Avery did it, he'd have used the smelter in the auto yard, not a fire pit. They'd have never found her remains encased in pot metal ingots.

I saw an interview with Dean Strang (one of the defense lawyers for Steven) and he said that a forensic anthropologist told them that a burn pit wouldn't generate nearly enough heat to burn through a body as thoroughly as the bones that were found. That makes me think she was burned at the quarry by someone else and then remains transported to the burn pit. Plus the fact that bones were found in three separate locations means the remains were moved.

[frankotank]

Originally Posted by Swanman

I saw an interview with Dean Strang (one of the defense lawyers for Steven) and he said that a forensic anthropologist told them that a burn pit wouldn't generate nearly enough heat to burn through a body as thoroughly as the bones that were found. That makes me think she was burned at the quarry by someone else and then remains transported to the burn pit. Plus the fact that bones were found in three separate locations means the remains were moved.

exactly....like I said....we're really supposed to believe he burned her IN HIS OWN BACK YARD...and then moved a couple handfuls to the quarry leaving 90 percent of her IN HIS OWN BACK YARD.

maybe Brendan would believe that....but the public at large....I don't think so.
this point should have been one of the biggest arguments for his innocence. but according to what I saw on the show...it was mentioned maybe twice...

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by frankotank

exactly....like I said....we're really supposed to believe he burned her IN HIS OWN BACK YARD...and then moved a couple handfuls to the quarry leaving 90 percent of her IN HIS OWN BACK YARD.

maybe Brendan would believe that....but the public at large....I don't think so.
this point should have been one of the biggest arguments for his innocence. but according to what I saw on the show...it was mentioned maybe twice...

A majority of people are idiots.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

I also think if Avery did it, he'd have used the smelter in the auto yard, not a fire pit. They'd have never found her remains encased in pot metal ingots.

That and would have crushed the car....

[Beef Supreme]

Colonel Mustard in the library with a lead pipe.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Finished it tonight, and holy ****.

Remind me to stay the **** out of Wisconsin. The whole mother****ing state is corrupt - county cops, prosecutors, judges, DOJ.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Finished it tonight, and holy ****.

Remind me to stay the **** out of Wisconsin. The whole mother****ing state is corrupt - county cops, prosecutors, judges, DOJ.

Finished tonight. Cops defintely planted evidence. The judicial system was biased. The judge that sentenced him and basically called him the worst human being ever, is the one who decides the appeal? WTF?

So many holes....where is the blood if she was killed in the bedroom or garage? Why doesn't he use the car crusher? and many more.

Yeah it was a biased documentary. But, it was riveting.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Finished it tonight, and holy ****.

Remind me to stay the **** out of Wisconsin. The whole mother****ing state is corrupt - county cops, prosecutors, judges, DOJ.

We weren't that far from there..I'm never going back. How in the **** does a judge allow evidence from police who weren't even supposed to be on the scene...MONTHS LATER

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by stevieray

We weren't that far from there..I'm never going back. How in the **** does a judge allow evidence from police who weren't even supposed to be on the scene...MONTHS LATER

I was watching CROPSEY right after this (horror documentary) and a lot of the same issues came up. It's worth watching for a number of (related) reasons...

[cosmo20002]

My biggest question...how in the **** is Brendan Dassey's original lawyer, Len Kachinsky, still allowed to practice law?

The guy has his investigator pull a detailed written confession, complete with illustrations, out of Dassey. When that scene started, I had to rewind it to confirm it was actually Dassey's own people doing this because I was sure it had to be the prosecution making him confess.

Then Kachinsky sends Dassey, with the written and illustrated confession, to talk to the prosecution--without Kachinsky even present. WTF?!
Never seen or heard of anything like it. Just ****ing bizarre.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

My biggest question...how in the **** is Brendan Dassey's original lawyer, Len Kachinsky, still allowed to practice law?

The guy has his investigator pull a detailed written confession, complete with illustrations, out of Dassey. When that scene started, I had to rewind it to confirm it was actually Dassey's own people doing this because I was sure it had to be the prosecution making him confess.

Then Kachinsky sends Dassey, with the written and illustrated confession, to talk to the prosecution--without Kachinsky even present. WTF?!
Never seen or heard of anything like it. Just ****ing bizarre.

Not to mention that at the same time, the investigator was working for the prosecution in the Avery case. Conflict of interest much?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

My biggest question...how in the **** is Brendan Dassey's original lawyer, Len Kachinsky, still allowed to practice law?

The guy has his investigator pull a detailed written confession, complete with illustrations, out of Dassey. When that scene started, I had to rewind it to confirm it was actually Dassey's own people doing this because I was sure it had to be the prosecution making him confess.

Then Kachinsky sends Dassey, with the written and illustrated confession, to talk to the prosecution--without Kachinsky even present. WTF?!
Never seen or heard of anything like it. Just ****ing bizarre.

The 1st time I saw that, I honestly thought his attorney was just trying to make a point. Trying to make a video to show how suggestible Dassey was to show to the court. Then it occurred to me they are actually trying to make this poor idiot kid say he did the these things, because they are lazy.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

My biggest question...how in the **** is Brendan Dassey's original lawyer, Len Kachinsky, still allowed to practice law?

The guy has his investigator pull a detailed written confession, complete with illustrations, out of Dassey. When that scene started, I had to rewind it to confirm it was actually Dassey's own people doing this because I was sure it had to be the prosecution making him confess.

Then Kachinsky sends Dassey, with the written and illustrated confession, to talk to the prosecution--without Kachinsky even present. WTF?!
Never seen or heard of anything like it. Just ****ing bizarre.

When I saw that, I had hoped he was going to use that to illustrate how easily Dassey could be persuaded into manufacturing a story. Needless to say I was stunned when it escalated back to the investigators. I still don't understand his intentions for doing that.

[ForeverChiefs58]

White House Issues Response to 'Making a Murderer' Petition


The petition to free Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey, the subjects of Netflix's popular series, was started on Dec. 20 and has reached over 129,000 signatures.

The White House issued a response to a petition to pardon Steven Avery and his cousin Brendan Dassey, the subjects of Netflix's popular series Making a Murderer, on Thursday.

In a statement posted via its We the People site, the White House explained that President Obama is unable to free Avery and Dassey because their alleged crime, the murdering of 25-year-old Teresa Halbach, is a state criminal offense.

"Under the Constitution, only federal criminal convictions, such as those adjudicated in the United States District Courts, may be pardoned by the President. In addition, the President's pardon power extends to convictions adjudicated in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia and military court-martial proceedings. However, the President cannot pardon a state criminal offense," the statement reads.

"Since Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey are both state prisoners, the President cannot pardon them. A pardon in this case would need to be issued at the state level by the appropriate authorities."

The petition, launched Dec. 20, pleaded for both subjects to be given a full pardon and claimed "the justice system embarrassingly failed both men, completely ruining their entire lives."

It reached 100,000 signatures, the amount required in order to elicit a response from the White House, within 30 days and has currently amassed over 129,000.