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Old 10-16-2018, 08:16 PM   #1
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Bring him back. He's a Chiefs legend and has been there through the thick and thin. Dj would make the middle of the field better but doesn't help the safety position we are currently getting our shit pushed in on.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:29 PM   #2
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one loss, we might never ever get to the SB?

listen to yourselves.

over one loss.

If you don't think we or anyone else can beat the Patriots, then we aren't SB bound anyway...and all of this is just a waste of time.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:31 PM   #3
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one loss, we might never ever get to the SB?

listen to yourselves.

over one loss.

If you don't think we or anyone else can beat the Patriots, then we aren't SB bound anyway...and all of this is just a waste of time.
I've already explained it multiple times. It's all about circumstances. Might was well agree to disagree because you're just not getting the context.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:36 PM   #4
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I've already explained it multiple times. It's all about circumstances. Might was well agree to disagree because you're just not getting the context.
I get the context. I totally get it. I just don't quite understand the assumptions that are driving your conclusions. They actually don't synchronize with the context you're describing (at least as I see it.)

It sounds as though you'd be happier with no hope. But, if you're forced to have hope, you'd rather wait until the Lombardi is all wrapped up and ready before you commit to actual, true, sincere, authentic hopefulness.

Is that pretty much it?

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Old 10-16-2018, 08:38 PM   #5
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I get the context. I totally get it. I just don't quite understand the assumptions that are driving your conclusions. They actually don't synchronize with the context you're describing (at least as I see it.)

It sounds as though you'd be happier with no hope. But, if you're forced to have hope, you'd rather wait until the Lombardi is all wrapped up and ready before you commit to actual, true, sincere, authentic hopefulness.

Is that pretty much it?

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After being a Chiefs and Royals fan since the late 80's, what do you think?

Is it rational? No, not really. But in all truth, it's easier to watch a team with zero expectations.

I watch a 2nd tier college team that has virtually no shot at a championship when the season starts. As soon as they get their first loss, "virtually" changes to "literally" and the season is pretty fun from there on out.

Again, it's probably not rational but it's a lot easier to have fun watching when you don't care how the game actually turns out.
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Old 10-16-2018, 08:51 PM   #6
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After being a Chiefs and Royals fan since the late 80's, what do you think?

Is it rational? No, not really. But in all truth, it's easier to watch a team with zero expectations.

I watch a 2nd tier college team that has virtually no shot at a championship when the season starts. As soon as they get their first loss, "virtually" changes to "literally" and the season is pretty fun from there on out.

Again, it's probably not rational but it's a lot easier to have fun watching when you don't care how the game actually turns out.
Dude ... if you only knew.

Countless are the times I've kicked myself in the ass for being a Chiefs fan ... sadly, a curse I was born into. Game after Game. Season after season.

I'm used to lack of hope. Actually, I haven't had "real" hope in this team for ... well ... my whole life. (Maybe a few years in the 90s, but even then I was guarded.)

I've learned a few things along the way, though. And one of those things is that life is fragile and often far too short. I can only speak for myself (obviously), but I believe enough in Mahomes and Wally together that I just want to enjoy the ride. I want to see how they work together to build something special. Because I believe they can. And also because I'm tired of not enjoying the team and the sport.

So I'm going to enjoy it this time around. Start to finish. And the finish could be awhile because I honestly believe that Mahomes and Wally can build something here that will last for years.

I'm not throwing objectivity out the window. None of us knows what will happen. But whatever happens, it's a ton better than what we've had for a long time. And it's actually quite exciting, to tell the truth.

So turn that frown upside down. And put a damn bullet in that unicorn's ear.

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Old 10-17-2018, 03:01 PM   #7
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After being a Chiefs and Royals fan since the late 80's, what do you think?

Is it rational? No, not really. But in all truth, it's easier to watch a team with zero expectations.

I watch a 2nd tier college team that has virtually no shot at a championship when the season starts. As soon as they get their first loss, "virtually" changes to "literally" and the season is pretty fun from there on out.

Again, it's probably not rational but it's a lot easier to have fun watching when you don't care how the game actually turns out.
Here let Lt. Spears explain it to you.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:06 PM   #8
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I've already explained it multiple times. It's all about circumstances. Might was well agree to disagree because you're just not getting the context.
I am getting the context. YOU decided after the second half that all of a sudden Mahomes was legit and now we will waste his talent for infinity after his first loss.

You're selling the kid out before he even gets chance to MAKE the playoffs.

Bottom line is, you think the only way the Chiefs can beat the Patriots in the playoffs is at home, and as history shows, that's not a given.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:09 PM   #9
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I am getting the context. YOU decided after the second half that all of a sudden Mahomes was legit and now we will waste his talent for infinity after his first loss.

You're selling the kid out before he even gets chance to MAKE the playoffs.

Bottom line is, you think the only way the Chiefs can beat the Patriots in the playoffs is at home, and as history shows, that's not a given.
Actually, I decided after the win at Denver that he was legit enough to win it all right now.

And no, I'm not suggesting that he'll be wasted for all infinity. I just don't want the Chiefs to pass up a real opportunity to win it all. That's all.

Again, sorry for being such a downer. It wasn't that they lost, it was the totally deflating way in which they lost. Flashbacks to 2003 and 2013, it's like experiencing it all over again.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:15 PM   #10
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Actually, I decided after the win at Denver that he was legit enough to win it all right now.

And no, I'm not suggesting that he'll be wasted for all infinity. I just don't want the Chiefs to pass up a real opportunity to win it all. That's all.

Again, sorry for being such a downer. It wasn't that they lost, it was the totally deflating way in which they lost. Flashbacks to 2003 and 2013, it's like experiencing it all over again.
No need to apologize, you know I've felt the same way.

...but that loss didn't feel that way to me at all. And I was at both games.

We scored too fast.
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Old 10-16-2018, 09:35 PM   #11
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Actually, I decided after the win at Denver that he was legit enough to win it all right now.

And no, I'm not suggesting that he'll be wasted for all infinity. I just don't want the Chiefs to pass up a real opportunity to win it all. That's all.

Again, sorry for being such a downer. It wasn't that they lost, it was the totally deflating way in which they lost. Flashbacks to 2003 and 2013, it's like experiencing it all over again.
The loss at NE for me was the only loss that absolutely did not deflate me whatsoever BUT rather significantly encouraged me which has never happened with any other Chief loss being a fan since the late 60's.

Why? All the experts were saying during the first half and at halftime that the stage in Foxboro was too big for PM2 but I didn't see it that way at all. When the stage is too big that means 'fear' rules. Did PM2 every show any fear ? NO !!

What I saw was a kid who was disecting the Pats defense but with too much adrenaline(missing the easy TD passes) and was getting the best of him and he just needed to dial the adrenaline back and that is exactly what he did in the 2nd half.

For me I saw a very talented kid grow into a man at QB in the 2nd half. And that 2nd half performance was a warning shot across the bow not just to the Pats but to the rest of the league as to what is coming !!

This is why I am very very encouraged for the future of our Chiefs !!
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one loss, we might never ever get to the SB?

listen to yourselves.

over one loss.

If you don't think we or anyone else can beat the Patriots, then we aren't SB bound anyway...and all of this is just a waste of time.
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I knew DJ's legs were gone last year.

I'd still take him. ILB's have played like garbage.
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Like, if we had a scrub like Bortles I'd be screaming and banging the table for HFA but it just doesn't seem to matter for Mahomes.
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Like, if we had a scrub like Bortles I'd be screaming and banging the table for HFA but it just doesn't seem to matter for Mahomes.
It did on Sunday night. He fell just short enough in the first half that the defense couldn't keep the lead.
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