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Old 05-05-2013, 08:32 PM   #1
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If Stephenson is as good as you guys think, drafting Fisher was even dumber.
I'm pretty sure that both sac and I argued that drafting a LT at 1.1 was stupid for this reason, and I argued that Jeff Allen has outstanding RT potential as well.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:43 PM   #2
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I'm pretty sure that both sac and I argued that drafting a LT at 1.1 was stupid for this reason, and I argued that Jeff Allen has outstanding RT potential as well.
Yep. Allen really has a nice skill set for the right tackle spot. The position really plays to his strengths as a player.

While Fisher might end up a very good pro, it was still a complete waste of a pick considering the young talent on the roster.

Basically, with the Fisher pick, we are going to waste our second and third round picks from last year or the 1.1 this year.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:47 PM   #3
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I'm pretty sure that both sac and I argued that drafting a LT at 1.1 was stupid for this reason, and I argued that Jeff Allen has outstanding RT potential as well.
I have no faith in Jeff Allen to start at any position this year after getting his ass kicked so many times last year.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:54 PM   #4
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I have no faith in Jeff Allen to start at any position this year after getting his ass kicked so many times last year.
I wouldn't get on Jeff Allen just yet. There was a rumor that Pioli may have purposely undercut the roster so the Chiefs would have a reason to fire Haley. This could be an example of that. Pioli did such a shitty job of providing o-line depth that you were essentially forcing your depth guys to play 2 positions.

For a guy like Jeff Allen, I want him to grow into one position. Allen is a good guy to groom for your bench and could very well turn into quality bench depth.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:31 PM   #5
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How would anyone reasonably expect this Oline to be better this year?

1. The only real vets are Albert and Asamoah, and Asamoah hasn't progressed as a player since his rookie year.

2. Their experience as a unit is almost non existent.

3. Rookie RT.

4. New coaches, QB, and offensive scheme.

This line looks like a recipe for disaster in '13 to me. Sure if they can keep it together, I can see it growing into a very good unit in years to come. But individual athleticism is rarely the catalyst for good Oline play.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:34 PM   #6
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I'm kind of thinking Fisher was the pick all along, but they expected to trade Albert. Then, that didn't go thru, so they picked Fisher anyway. Now they have 3 talented tackles, potentially 4, depending on what they want to do with Allen.


So, who knows what they think of Stephenson, but it seems they are going to put Fisher at RT, ALbert at LT this year and go from there.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:37 PM   #7
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We did hear from someone (don't remember if it was TBG or who) that they wanted to kick Albert in to G.

I'd assume if they did that, it would be

Fisher
Albert
Hudson
Asamoah
Stephenson/Allen

But, that leaves Schwartz out, being he's a free agent who they brought in I'd say he's going to play.

So, in all reality, I don't know what the **** I'm talking about at all.
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Old 05-05-2013, 08:55 PM   #8
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We did hear from someone (don't remember if it was TBG or who) that they wanted to kick Albert in to G.

I'd assume if they did that, it would be

Fisher
Albert
Hudson
Asamoah
Stephenson/Allen

But, that leaves Schwartz out, being he's a free agent who they brought in I'd say he's going to play.

So, in all reality, I don't know what the **** I'm talking about at all.
Who ever it is, is full of shit, they are not moving Albert to guard at least not this year. Andy Reid may want to kick Albert to guard but they aren't going to rock the cradle this time of year. They will stick with Albert at LT to start the season.

They may end up trading him before the trade deadline who knows??
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:05 PM   #9
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Who ever it is, is full of shit, they are not moving Albert to guard at least not this year. Andy Reid may want to kick Albert to guard but they aren't going to rock the cradle this time of year. They will stick with Albert at LT to start the season.

They may end up trading him before the trade deadline who knows??
If they pay him, they'll move him wherever they want.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:12 PM   #10
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Who ever it is, is full of shit, they are not moving Albert to guard at least not this year. Andy Reid may want to kick Albert to guard but they aren't going to rock the cradle this time of year. They will stick with Albert at LT to start the season.

They may end up trading him before the trade deadline who knows??
You don't get it.

No one has argued more vehemently for Albert at LT than me.

No one called sac more names, or villified his opinions in the last couple of years.

But this team decided to utilize the #1 overall on a tackle.

What's done is done.

Now you do what you need to do to maximize the parts you have.

The best way to do that.
Move Albert to LG.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:00 PM   #11
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Allen was a college tackle moved to LG and had to start as a rookie there. He was shit, but I'm not sure we can rule him out either way.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:13 PM   #12
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If Albert goes to LG, where does Schwartz go? Is he the B/U guard? Does he play RG and Asamoah sit?
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:18 PM   #13
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I totally agree, Milk.

Albert can be our Iupati. Many said Iupati could be a LT, too...but would be an all pro guard.
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This conversation is reason why this OL shouldn't need another high pick spent on it for a long time.

We should have a really nice starting lineup and 2-3 reserve players that are high quality. We should be able to sustain a couple injuries while still having high level line play.
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As to the long article; I'm SO glad the media decided to take this angle AFTER filling idiots heads full of shit for weeks leading up to the draft! A prime example of why Kiper and Mayock should be banging their boyfriends instead of "tables".
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