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Old 11-01-2019, 10:52 AM  
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He's a ONE Man Ukrainian Lobby

From Ann Coulter—and her solution to people like Vindman who show more allegiance to their former country than tax-paying Americans they have chosen to live among. It should also apply to people like Alexandra Chalupa another Ukrainian-American involved in Ukraine meddling in our elections, Iranian immigrants agitating our govt for interference in their former country and others who seek money for their former countries.
[Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman] was born in Ukraine and raised there until age 3 1/2, when he was invited to our country...

Now he is the top Ukrainian adviser on the National Security Council. Of all the people who could look out for the U.S.’s interests vis-a-vis Ukraine, we got someone who was born there...

So, naturally, when he had a policy disagreement with President Trump pertaining to the country he was born in, he thought he had a responsibility to agitate for removal proceedings against the duly elected U.S. president, just as I might have taken issue with the carpets in ..[someone's] Georgetown townhouse.

For some reason, we keep hearing about Col. Vindman’s valor and patriotism... But unless I missed it in the newspapers at the time, I don’t believe he was elected president in 2016. In fact, there’s a specific constitutional provision that prevents Col. Vindman from ever being president: He wasn’t born here.

Study question: Why might the framers have added that clause?

It would be bad enough if Col. Vindman’s policy disagreement with the president had to do with U.S. policy on Mexico or North Korea. But it was about the country where Col. Vindman was born.

We’re always told that Democrats don’t have to prove wrongdoing by Trump — for example, under the emoluments clause, in his foreign policy negotiations or when he fired his FBI director. Rather, it’s claimed that Trump’s conduct creates the appearance of impropriety.

Well, having a Ukrainian-born analyst butt in to ensure U.S. foreign aid flows effortlessly to the country of his birth gives the appearance that he’s concerned about fairness to Ukraine. That’s not what this is supposed to be about. It’s supposed to be about what’s in the best interests of the United States—[NOT what is in the best interests of the Ukraine.]

Worse, Vindman was dealing with the U.S.’s Ukrainian policy versus Russia, which Ukrainians hate because Stalin murdered millions of them. It’s like having an Armenian advise on whether we should be hostile to Turkey.

This is not the usual dual loyalty claim insultingly attributed to Irish or Jewish Americans who were born in this country. Lots of us have admixtures of other nationalities.

But when you were actually born in another country and that’s the precise policy matter you’re sticking your nose into, people are going to wonder if it’s really our national interests you’re looking out for.

Proposed Constitutional Amendment No. 1: Immigrants are required to wait a minimum of two (2) generations before bossing around the most successful, prosperous, free country on Earth, and fully three (3) generations before advising on our government’s policy toward the countries of their forefathers....

https://www.takimag.com/article/hes-...rainian-lobby/
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Old 11-01-2019, 02:47 PM   #46
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Nope.

Try again.
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Old 11-01-2019, 02:53 PM   #47
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Nope.

Try again.
Maybe my wording was too complex for you. My apologies.
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Old 11-01-2019, 02:58 PM   #48
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until you actually make a response regarding this man's lobbying for the Ukraine from inside the govt as if he's president.
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:01 PM   #49
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until you actually make a response regarding this man's lobbying for the Ukraine from inside the govt as if he's president.
Blow me, until you can point to a specific crime committed by Vindman, with evidence.
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:04 PM   #50
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:09 PM   #51
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I was kidding, of course. BEP would navigate a dick about as well as a marmoset would navigate Windows 10.
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I was kidding, of course. BEP would navigate a dick about as well as a marmoset would navigate Windows 10.
She'd definitely have to navigate through your pubic hair to find your little twister
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Blow me, until you can point to a specific crime committed by Vindman, with evidence.
That's another strawman. I only said he was lobbying for the Ukraine his birth country to ensure it got money from Americans, and used an article that said the same and how.

Keep changing the subject though. Think I'll put you in that cockpit with donger.
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Old 11-01-2019, 03:33 PM   #56
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Melania Trump grew up in Slovenia. I bet she's still loyal to Slovenia. I dont have any basis for this, but it's where she grew up.
Is Melania demanding her husband give US taxpayer money to her birth country?

Is she a dual citizen? To my knowledge Slovenia does not recognize dual citizenship or restricts it. I think they have to be part of the EU to have it.

How corrupt is Slovenia? Was Slovenia involved in US election meddling as the Ukraine was doing?
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And he's in the military allowed to rise to a level of officer? What a disgrace!
You can't get a commission with dual citizenship. Or at least that's how it used to be. I remember something about security clearances being impossible to get, too.
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President Trump does not care for providing foreign aid generally.

Here's a CFR article from 2018 even commenting on his reluctance:
With President Trump advocating for deep cuts to U.S. foreign aid, debate has renewed over the role of foreign assistance funds in boosting growth, promoting democracy, and saving lives...

Since taking office, President Trump has sought deep cuts in foreign aid spending, aiming to slash nearly a third of the budget. In his 2018 speech before the UN General Assembly, he said, “Moving forward, we are only going to give foreign aid to those who respect us and, frankly, are our friends.”
There's nothing inconsistent with Trump toward Ukraine as he has spoken in the past even though Ukraine never knew there was a hold on their aid, and Trump disbursed it ultimately.


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U.S. foreign assistance is managed by a complex ecosystem of agencies, with more than twenty federal agencies involved in either funding or implementing foreign aid policy.
Guess who is over those agencies? The president.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/how...ts-foreign-aid
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Keep changing the subject though. Think I'll put you in that cockpit with donger.
Who gives a ****? What are you, 5 years old?
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Who gives a ****? What are you, 5 years old?
AND what does it HAVE to DO with the FEDERAL RESEREVSE!!!??
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