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Old 01-29-2019, 04:28 PM   #1
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Yeah, if you want to take one in the 3rd or something, have at it. It's just not worth that high of a pick I don't think.

It seems teams take one high thinking he's the last piece but it just allows other holes to open up.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:37 PM   #2
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Yeah, if you want to take one in the 3rd or something, have at it. It's just not worth that high of a pick I don't think.

It seems teams take one high thinking he's the last piece but it just allows other holes to open up.
RB is exactly the kind of position you target a little later at this point since the position has become devalued.

I mean if Saquon or his ilk falls then you're looking at a guy who's such a screaming bargain that you take him. But even when RBs were considered high-end commodities, a player like Jacobs wouldn't go more than a few picks higher than he's likely going to go now. Maybe he goes in the high teens/early 20s if this draft were done 15 years ago?

Taking him a few picks after where he'd go at 'peak value' isn't a significant enough adjustment, IMO. Maybe I'm just wrong on his value - maybe he's a top 5-10 guy when RBs were still as highly sought after and that the only reason he'd fall to us in the late 20s would be the market adjusting so we should take him to try to stay ahead of the market. But what I see there is an upright runner with above average but not elite speed and solid but unspectacular lateral agility. His hands are...fine, his acceleration is good but not great. He's a very well rounded big back and those are nice guys to have but on this team at this time I just can't see a desperate need for that skill set. Honestly...I kinda see Fournette in him and that's just not been a recipe for success of late.

I just don't think he alters the team's trajectory significantly.
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Old 01-29-2019, 04:51 PM   #3
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RB is exactly the kind of position you target a little later at this point since the position has become devalued.

I mean if Saquon or his ilk falls then you're looking at a guy who's such a screaming bargain that you take him. But even when RBs were considered high-end commodities, a player like Jacobs wouldn't go more than a few picks higher than he's likely going to go now. Maybe he goes in the high teens/early 20s if this draft were done 15 years ago?

Taking him a few picks after where he'd go at 'peak value' isn't a significant enough adjustment, IMO. Maybe I'm just wrong on his value - maybe he's a top 5-10 guy when RBs were still as highly sought after and that the only reason he'd fall to us in the late 20s would be the market adjusting so we should take him to try to stay ahead of the market. But what I see there is an upright runner with above average but not elite speed and solid but unspectacular lateral agility. His hands are...fine, his acceleration is good but not great. He's a very well rounded big back and those are nice guys to have but on this team at this time I just can't see a desperate need for that skill set. Honestly...I kinda see Fournette in him and that's just not been a recipe for success of late.

I just don't think he alters the team's trajectory significantly.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like you could find a guy that can put his head down and get 3 yards every play in every draft.

If you want a RB for this current offense, you need (sigh, **** we had him here already) a Kareem Hunt type guy that has great vision and balance.

I think Williams is a little Kamara light in that he can catch it and is good in the open field. He's not great there but good enough.

If you want to add the next dimension to this offense, probably going to have to draft a C or LG early or look for a WR or another TE. Rb just isn't the place to go.
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Yeah, if you want to take one in the 3rd or something, have at it. It's just not worth that high of a pick I don't think.

It seems teams take one high thinking he's the last piece but it just allows other holes to open up.
I wouldn't take a RB higher than the 4th. Those first 3 rounds need to be instant starters, preferably on defense.

I get that people think RB is a need - it isn't. They're committed, both contractually and playing time-wise, to Williams.
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