Which QB is better: Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson?

[Warrick]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Dak has more playoff wins than Lamar and more fourth quarter comebacks.

Of course he does, he's has more seasons under his belt, and is 27 yrs old now. I'll tell you what he doesn't have though, an MVP.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Warrick

Of course he does, he's has more seasons under his belt, and is 27 yrs old now. I'll tell you what he doesn't have though, an MVP.

Dak has been in the NFL two years longer than Lamar... don’t act like it is a 10 year difference to mask the fact Lamar has choked in his two playoff games and hasn’t led a fourth quarter comeback in nearly two years as a starting QB (Dak has nine 4th quarter comebacks).

[Warrick]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Dak has been in the NFL two years longer than Lamar... don’t act like it is a 10 year difference to mask the fact Lamar has choked in his two playoff games and hasn’t led a fourth quarter comeback in nearly two years as a starting QB (Dak has nine 4th quarter comebacks).

If I insinuated that Lamar was only 17 yrs old, I apologise... however, there is a four year difference in age. Like I said, Dak plays in a weak divison, and still manages an 8-8 record.

[Bowser]

Let's do the team flip for Dak and Jackson. Lamar is now a Cowboy with that line and weapons, and Dak is a Crow with their line and weapons. Who has more success as a QB?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Let's do the team flip for Dak and Jackson. Lamar is now a Cowboy with that line and weapons, and Dak is a Crow with their line and weapons. Who has more success as a QB?

Considering that Dallas has a 2018 Chiefs-like Defense and Lamar can't throw accurately outside the lines, I'd be surprised if Dallas could win 3 more games this season.

Offensively, the Ravens are nothing special at WR or TE but I think Dak gets more of out the passing game than Lamar ever could, so I'll go with Dak.

Baltimore was really exposed Monday night. They don't really have any transcendent players on offense or defense (outside of Jackson's athleticism and running ability) and as much as the Bengals, Browns and Steelers have improved this year, Baltimore could be looking at an 8-8/9-7/10-6 kind of season.

New England, Dallas and Tennessee could really cause them problems this season, too, because once the Ravens are down by 7, their offense falls apart.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Let's do the team flip for Dak and Jackson. Lamar is now a Cowboy with that line and weapons, and Dak is a Crow with their line and weapons. Who has more success as a QB?

Today, it'd have to be Dak. He's got more time in both at the position and in the NFL. And he wouldn't be limited to Roman's offense. He could step in and in a couple weeks have decent command of the offense.

Lamar would either have to learn to run a typical pro offense in DAL or they'd have to reorganize their offense to suit Lamar. But since we're blue-skying here, let's just assume he'd have to learn to run the DAL offense as is. This year I don't think that would go that well.

But DAL isn't really ideal for a QB like Lamar. What if he went to, maybe the 49ers? Could he operate that offense in place of Jimmy? I think he probably could. Oh, there's things that Jimmy is better at, but he's not a great QB either. They aren't asking him to carry the team either.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Both are just good enough to be built up and fed to Mahomes....but just like Watson will never win shit

[Megatron96]

Dak is just Dak. He's basically a more athletic version of Derek Carr. In fact, he's a lot like Carr in that he's got some impressive stats for people to ohh and ahh over, but no significant wins. Don't get me wrong, I'd take Dak before Carr no question, but it's hard to really see a huge difference in their level of play when the big game is on the line.

On the other hand, Lamar might just be Lamar. Or he might grow into a Vick, just without the cannon arm. Or maybe he becomes something like, oh, Donavon McNabb. But a lot faster.

My personal opinion is that Lamar will get better as a passer. He is working on the craft of QBing, and from all reports working really hard. Will he reach an elite level of QB play? I doubt it. But if he could get to Dak's cerebral level, say, with his other physical attributes he'd be pretty damned dangerous.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

But if he could get to Dak's cerebral level, say, with his other physical attributes he'd be pretty damned dangerous.

Lamar Jackson scored a 13 on the Wonderlic exam.

While that's certainly not the End-All-Be-All in determining NFL success, that's a pretty low score for a QB that's expected to learn and process a "normal" NFL offense and read and react to NFL defenses.

Dak scored a 25.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Lamar Jackson scored a 13 on the Wonderlic exam.

While that's certainly not the End-All-Be-All in determining NFL success, that's a pretty low score for a QB that's expected to learn and process a "normal" NFL offense and read and react to NFL defenses.

Dak scored a 25.

Well, we aren't asking Lamar to solve algebra problems. I'm only suggesting that it might be possible for Lamar to learn to go through his pre-snap routine, make adjustments, etc. on about the same level as any upper mid-tier QB in the NFL.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Well, we aren't asking Lamar to solve algebra problems. I'm only suggesting that it might be possible for Lamar to learn to go through his pre-snap routine, make adjustments, etc. on about the same level as any upper mid-tier QB in the NFL.

The Wonderlic tests problem solving vs. TIME.

It doesn't just test if you can get the right answer. It also tests how fast you can get the right answer.

People really don't learn how to think faster, even if they can learn by volume.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The Wonderlic tests problem solving vs. TIME.

It doesn't just test if you can get the right answer. It also tests how fast you can get the right answer.

People really don't learn how to think faster, even if they can learn by volume.

Okay, thanks for reminding me about the time part.

But a low score on the Wonderlic test doesn't necessarily mean that a person can't learn to do a basic pre-snap read does it? I mean, Marino managed and his score wasn't that great either.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Lamar Jackson scored a 13 on the Wonderlic exam.

While that's certainly not the End-All-Be-All in determining NFL success, that's a pretty low score for a QB that's expected to learn and process a "normal" NFL offense and read and react to NFL defenses.

Dak scored a 25.

It's been talked about before. The Wonderlic is a pretty general test, used across a wide range of professions. A high score doesn't necessarily mean a guy will be a better football player.

But a really low score is generally an indicator that a person won't be able to do anything well if it requires problem solving, especially quickly.

[Warrick]

Not to mention, Dak is in a weak division.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Warrick

Not to mention, Dak is in a weak division.

The AFC North isn't exactly a powerhouse division.