*****The Patrick Mahomes Thread*****

[Dante84]

IT ****ING HAPPENED



OP UPDATE:

Because of all the interest in this thread, I've place all of the video content of Patrick Mahomes II's college career, and draft day goodness into a single post that can be found here. Enjoy!

[duncan_idaho]

WTF. Fax is back?

Fax is back!

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

WTF. Fax is back?

Fax is back!

Fax will never be back.

Fax was replaced by Email a long time ago and we're not going back now.

[FAX]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

WTF. Fax is back?

Fax is back!

I can't explain it either, Mr. duncan_idaho.

FAX THE EQUALLY CONFOUNDED

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Keitzman slamming Mahomes again today.

Mahomes is a turnover machine.

Expect a lot more turnovers. Alex knew how to set up the punter better than Mahomes. The best part of the Chiefs defense was Alex Smith.

https://omny.fm/shows/between-the-li...a-894dd608d3f7

Well Kevin, that would be great and all if.. you know... Alex’s job hasn’t been to lead the offense.

I bet he was pissed off last year when we played New England and Smith didn’t just manage that game.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by FAX

Easy fix, Mr. Halfcan.

We start "Texas Gunslinger" magazine.

Perhaps we can have a centerfold, too?

FAX THE PROBLEM SOLVER

Excellent!!

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Watson is on the cover of SI with a huge write-up declaring him the best QB ever...



meanwhile, they pick Chiefs to go 7-9 and Mahomes is a reckless gunslinger.



If we drafted Watson instead- they would still pick us to go 7-9 and Watson would be considered the injury risk QB he is.



Mahomes would be on the cover as the Texas Gunslinger and be receiving all the adulation that Watson is getting.

The true turnover machine, Watson is a reckless gunslinger with bad knees who can only throw it up to Hopkins.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

The true turnover machine, Watson is a reckless gunslinger with bad knees who can only throw it up to Hopkins.

It worked pretty good for Watson last year. Guess we will see if he can keep it going this year. I wouldn’t bet against him.

[mr. tegu]

I think it’s obvious Mahomes will throw more INTs than Smith but the real annoyance really comes when people try to equate that to being some crippling disaster that will destroy the team.

First, I don’t believe he is going to be losing any games with three turnovers simply because in a given game there will be a plethora of open receivers all over the field that don’t require a difficult throw by his standards. And the few difficult throws or decisions he may have certainly won’t be automatic INTs due to arm talent.

Also, it needs to repeated that the context of INTs matters. It doesn’t matter one bit if he throws double the picks of Smith if half of them occur in a situation in which you were just going to punt to that spot on the next play after a check down or QB scramble. Sometimes it will result in picks but others will be TDs so it will still be a net gain for the offense.

[KChiefs1]

https://youtu.be/CaJJS84Vzxg

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Mahomes has played basically played 5 quarters in the preseason and has 1 pick.

You have to include the phantom INT's. They count too.

And then there was that day in camp about a month ago when he had those 3 INT's. You surely remember those? One came on an offsides penalty free down type of play. (Alex would have taken a knee and just accepted the 5 free yards, instead of taking the 5 free yards after the interception). One on a rollout where he could have just ran it in for a TD, but didn't want to because he had on the yellow jersey and the defense couldn't tackle him. And one where he called a play, and thought he had called a different play, and wasn't on the same page with his receivers.

He's a turnover machine.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Keitzman slamming Mahomes again today.

Mahomes is a turnover machine.

Expect a lot more turnovers. Alex knew how to set up the punter better than Mahomes. The best part of the Chiefs defense was Alex Smith.

https://omny.fm/shows/between-the-li...a-894dd608d3f7

We will see, but I think Mahomes will be better for the defense than Smith was. Mahomes has a better chance to keep the chains moving by challenging the sticks, than just accepting a 5 yard gain on 3rd and 7 and punting. Moving the chains keeps the defense on the sidelines. That in turn makes the defense better/fresher.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Coogs

You have to include the phantom INT's. They count too.

And then there was that day in camp about a month ago when he had those 3 INT's. You surely remember those? One came on an offsides penalty free down type of play. (Alex would have taken a knee and just accepted the 5 free yards, instead of taking the 5 free yards after the interception). One on a rollout where he could have just ran it in for a TD, but didn't want to because he had on the yellow jersey and the defense couldn't tackle him. And one where he called a play, and thought he had called a different play, and wasn't on the same page with his receivers.

He's a turnover machine.

You’re an idiot.

[PmCakes]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I think it’s obvious Mahomes will throw more INTs than Smith but the real annoyance really comes when people try to equate that to being some crippling disaster that will destroy the team.

First, I don’t believe he is going to be losing any games with three turnovers simply because in a given game there will be a plethora of open receivers all over the field that don’t require a difficult throw by his standards. And the few difficult throws or decisions he may have certainly won’t be automatic INTs due to arm talent.

Also, it needs to repeated that the context of INTs matters. It doesn’t matter one bit if he throws double the picks of Smith if half of them occur in a situation in which you were just going to punt to that spot on the next play after a check down or QB scramble. Sometimes it will result in picks but others will be TDs so it will still be a net gain for the offense.

To a degree mahomes can get away with turnovers. It'll help having Kareem there to protect the rock at the rate he does and we should hope it continues.

New England has the fewest turnovers of any team over the last 10 years let's not act like he can be mistake prone and there won't be consequences...defenses tire out far quicker than offenses do relative to time spent on the field.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by FAX

I can't explain it either, Mr. duncan_idaho.

FAX THE EQUALLY CONFOUNDED

It's Mahomes Hope, and you know it.

There hasn't been a reason to be so optimistic about this team since 95-97 when we were duped.

Well, except during the Priest Holmes era, in which we were duped again.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Strongside

You’re an idiot.

Why?