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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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2018 STL Cardinals Thread

Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
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Old 11-21-2018, 09:53 AM   #4051
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What do you guys think of the 40 man roster and rule 5 draft players we protected? Miss anyone?
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:24 AM   #4052
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#STLCards maintaining interest in free agent Michael Brantley, source confirms, even as they’re open to a more expensive outfielder (read: Bryce Harper), per comments by Bill DeWitt III to @dgoold. @MLB @MLBNetwork
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I'm assuming that means it's not BOTH, but rather either/or. I am actually a big fan of Brantley. If/when we don't get Harper, they will then play the "don't put all of our eggs in one basket" approach.

I could then see them doing the Greinke/Goldy trade and signing someone like Brantley. I would prefer Harper and I'm not sold on Goldy long term, especially after the Fowler experience, but I would like the temporary upgrade.
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Old 11-21-2018, 10:32 AM   #4053
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Brantley is about 15% better than Dexter Fowler, but the two have remarkably similar skill sets aside from BA and walk rate (which ends up as a wash in OBP). Power, speed, defense, health--all similar.

Still pisses me the **** off, though, that they're willing to sign a FA Brantley but jettisoned a younger, better Tommy Pham. Mozeliak is a gat damn idiot.
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Old 11-21-2018, 12:20 PM   #4054
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I'm assuming that means it's not BOTH, but rather either/or. I am actually a big fan of Brantley. If/when we don't get Harper, they will then play the "don't put all of our eggs in one basket" approach.

I could then see them doing the Greinke/Goldy trade and signing someone like Brantley. I would prefer Harper and I'm not sold on Goldy long term, especially after the Fowler experience, but I would like the temporary upgrade.
He was good last year, but we still lack a power bat with him on the team.
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:32 PM   #4055
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I'm assuming that means it's not BOTH, but rather either/or. I am actually a big fan of Brantley. If/when we don't get Harper, they will then play the "don't put all of our eggs in one basket" approach.

I could then see them doing the Greinke/Goldy trade and signing someone like Brantley. I would prefer Harper and I'm not sold on Goldy long term, especially after the Fowler experience, but I would like the temporary upgrade.
Fowler 2.0.

Par for the course and I'm only disappointed that I didn't predict it in the first place.

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Old 11-26-2018, 01:42 PM   #4056
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Old 11-26-2018, 04:56 PM   #4057
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That's more than I thought he'd get on a prove it deal, and with their talent and the deterioration of Washington, I can't blame him.
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1 year deal? I thought he’d get a multi-year deal.
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Old 11-26-2018, 06:17 PM   #4060
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Like his .275 avg with 21 HR, 63 RBIs and 102 R would not have helped us this year.
Why the hate for this guy?
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wellll it looks like MLB wasn't feeling Donaldson so I cant blame the Cardinals for passing on him. Moose would be an okay upgrade at 3B if that's not the only upgrade.
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wellll it looks like MLB wasn't feeling Donaldson so I cant blame the Cardinals for passing on him. Moose would be an okay upgrade at 3B if that's not the only upgrade.
Maybe an upgrade if you don't think Gyorko can stay healthy (which has merit). It seems more like a poor fielding Tino Martinez type move. If you want to give him a one year deal sure, but anything mulit-year and I could see that fat tub with the range of Bob Horner regressing after he cashes in.
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Maybe an upgrade if you don't think Gyorko can stay healthy (which has merit). It seems more like a poor fielding Tino Martinez type move. If you want to give him a one year deal sure, but anything mulit-year and I could see that fat tub with the range of Bob Horner regressing after he cashes in.
My feelings on Gyrko are well known. He's a not an everyday starter. Just a bat off the bench.

But, if this rumor is true, then they are not going to trade for Goldy. Which I think would have been a really stupid move anyway. A good side benefit.
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My feelings on Gyrko are well known. He's a not an everyday starter. Just a bat off the bench.

But, if this rumor is true, then they are not going to trade for Goldy. Which I think would have been a really stupid move anyway. A good side benefit.
My feelings are Harper or bust. Otherwise I don't see any compelling targets that are upgrades for this offense/defense. I would rather go into the season with Fowler as a starter than Moose. If he is healthy and reverts to the OBP averages he had before getting hurt he would be more valuable to the line up than Moose.

Goldy would help this offense for sure. I'm guessing it would cost us quite a bit in prospects for just a one year deal. Now if they get him to sign something reasonable with the trade as an extension that would change things, but why would he? Most likely we would again be paying for a declining player at the highest level (see Fowler).

If you want to do something big, throw everything at Harper AND trade for Goldy. I could live with watching Carp underhand it across the diamond for a that line up.
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