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Old 01-02-2018, 05:51 PM  
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2018 STL Cardinals Thread
Opening day lineup

Fowler RF
Pham CF
Carpenter 3B
Ozuna LF
Martinez 1B
Molina C
Dejong SS
Wong 2B
Pitcher

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Old 10-20-2018, 06:30 AM   #3946
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I don’t see Harper to St. Louis happening. Ultimately, Mozeliak will chicken out at the terms and length of the deal.
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Why would the A’s trade Matt Chapman when he has five years of control left and looks like a perennial Gold Glove winner, coming off a season where he was the best defender in baseball and also posted an .864 OPs? He was worth 8 rWAR this year. Especially considering Carlos Martinez is pricy (for the A’s) and inconsistent and the other pieces you’re offering there are just filler/roster garbage.

Makes no sense. .
I agree its a long shot. But, if you dont kick the tires, you wilil never know.
you forget about plan B? ATL has two quality 3B.

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The Cardinals will add Josh Donaldson, I think, and otherwise sit basically right if he rebounds to form, that could even be the boost they needed to be a playoff team again.
I dont think so. Mo has had enough of overpaying for 30+ aging and skill diminishing players.
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Mozeliak missed badly on not paying a little more for Yelich vs Ozuna, though. Going to feel that one for a while. He could have been part of a really dynamic 1-2 punch.
By all accounts from EVERYONE was that Miami was unsure if they were going to trade Yelich. If they waited till Miami makes up their mind, they lose Ozuna. "A little more?" It would have took adding Flaherty to the package. Thats not "a little more" talent.
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Old 10-20-2018, 06:34 AM   #3947
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What was with Mo trashing Ozuna? Calling him out publicly? If he is not doing everything he can to get better, then why would any team want to give him a big contract next off season?


I certainty don't want a player that is not giving 100% when they are on the verge of getting generational changing money. What are they going to do when they get paid?


Hopefully O'neill will be ready to be an everyday player in 2020.
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:46 AM   #3948
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I agree its a long shot. But, if you dont kick the tires, you wilil never know.
you forget about plan B? ATL has two quality 3B.

I dont think so. Mo has had enough of overpaying for 30+ aging and skill diminishing players.
By all accounts from EVERYONE was that Miami was unsure if they were going to trade Yelich. If they waited till Miami makes up their mind, they lose Ozuna. "A little more?" It would have took adding Flaherty to the package. Thats not "a little more" talent.

They could have gotten it done by adding Kelly or Bader and Weaver to Alcantara, IMO.

Re: don’t ask/don’t know on Chapman, if you do ask it needs to be a much stronger offer than offering them a less valuable, tremendously more expensive player with injury concerns and a couple of roster fillers.
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:41 AM   #3949
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ocity's boy might be on trade market as well - Paul Goldschmidt.

I would venture the Cardinals sign Donaldson though.
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ocity's boy might be on trade market as well - Paul Goldschmidt.

I would venture the Cardinals sign Donaldson though.
We are going to have to give up some serious talent to land Goldy for a one year rental? Then he's going to want to be paid at age 32 till at least age 37. No thanks.


Same issue with Donaldson. Older player wanting to be paid top $ in their late 30's.
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They could have gotten it done by adding Kelly or Bader and Weaver to Alcantara, IMO.
Rosenthal says it would have taken Flaherty to make the deal. Also read some other national writer say the same thing, think it was Law? AND Rosenthal says Yelich wasn't available at the time and the Miami FO was set on keeping him at the time.

You probably forgot more about baseball this week than I know total. But, You cant just say throw in Bader and the deal is done when these national writers with good track records on the information that they post say Yelchich wasn't available and when he was that it would have taken Flaherty.
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After the Astros won the WS last season, Dallas Kuechel said that they weren't the Cubs.l.
They weren't, Hou had a killer rotation this year. Cubs rotation was garbage.
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Why would the A’s trade Matt Chapman when he has five years of control left and looks like a perennial Gold Glove winner, coming off a season where he was the best defender in baseball and also posted an .864 OPs? He was worth 8 rWAR this year. Especially considering Carlos Martinez is pricy (for the A’s) and inconsistent and the other pieces you’re offering there are just filler/roster garbage.

Makes no sense. .

Chapman is probably top-5 most valuable commodity in all of MLB, so obv that trade has less than 0% chance of happening. That said, the Cards really have no excuse not to spend some big coin this offseason. If they don't get a premium player their management is full of shit
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They weren't, Hou had a killer rotation this year. Cubs rotation was garbage.
So killer their result ended in the exact same way as the Cubs last season.
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I would venture the Cardinals sign Donaldson though.
Sadly he may be a bit too old at this point for a long term we

I’d rather just throw everything at Harper and hope it turns out
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BRC, here’s the deal with trading Flaherty or any pitcher. Who cares? This organization. Can draft and develop pitchers. We’ve seen that.

They can’t do it with bats.
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Not that anyone cares.....but there isn't a Dodgers thread or anything (for obvious reasons)......but blow this shit up. Let Kershaw and Machado walk. **** this shit.
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While i agree, **** boston and the doyers. Not watching a game of this bullshit.
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BRC, here’s the deal with trading Flaherty or any pitcher. Who cares? This organization. Can draft and develop pitchers. We’ve seen that.

They can’t do it with bats.
There is a huge talent gap between Flaherty and the rest of the up and coming pitchers. You can win 85 games with average pitchers if you have a respectable offense. But, when you get to the playoffs and expect to win a series, you cant do that with #3/#4 pitchers.
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