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****Official 2017 NBA Playoffs Thread****
The real season begins.

Round 1:

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#8 Bulls @ #1 Celtics
#7 Pacers @ #2 Cavs
#6 Bucks @ #3 Raptors
#5 Hawks @ #4 Wizards

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#8 Blazers @ #1 Warriors
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Spurs
#6 Thunder @ #3 Rockets
#5 Jazz @ #4 Clippers
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Old 05-26-2017, 07:25 AM   #961
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"One of the reasons I respect Dirk Nowitzki, can you imagine if Dirk Nowitzki had left the Mavs and kind of cheated his way to a championship? What you people would be saying about him in Dallas?" Barkley asked.

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Old 05-26-2017, 07:26 AM   #962
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Everyone acts like MJ didn't lose a shit ton of playoff games. He lost to the Celtics and the Pistons and the Lakers until they all got old or had legends retire. He won nothing until Pippin was drafted.

Lebron gets beat up constantly for bullshit reasons and Jordan gets a pass on everything. Three finals closing game winning shots were not taken by him. He passed the ball. If Lebron did that he would be crucified.
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Old 05-26-2017, 07:34 AM   #963
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Everyone acts like MJ didn't lose a shit ton of playoff games. He lost to the Celtics and the Pistons and the Lakers until they all got old or had legends retire. He won nothing until Pippin was drafted.

Lebron gets beat up constantly for bullshit reasons and Jordan gets a pass on everything. Three finals closing game winning shots were not taken by him. He passed the ball. If Lebron did that he would be crucified.
MJ doesn't need a "pass". It's Lebron who everybody has to make excuses for and defend. There's a reason for that.
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Old 05-26-2017, 07:47 AM   #964
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MJ doesn't need a "pass". It's Lebron who everybody has to make excuses for and defend. There's a reason for that.
MJ gets a pass for all his flaws. What planet are you living on. Lebron is a better scorer, rebounder and passer than Jordan was and it's not even close. Has titles with two different teams and beat a 73 win team and a legendary Spurs team in the finals. Led his teams in points, rebounds and assists along the way.

No player but him has ever done that. MJ couldn't even come close those stats.
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Old 05-26-2017, 08:02 AM   #965
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MJ gets a pass for all his flaws. What planet are you living on. Lebron is a better scorer, rebounder and passer than Jordan was and it's not even close. Has titles with two different teams and beat a 73 win team and a legendary Spurs team in the finals. Led his teams in points, rebounds and assists along the way.

No player but him has ever done that. MJ couldn't even come close those stats.
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Your basketball takes are somehow even worse than your football takes.
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Old 05-26-2017, 08:09 AM   #966
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MJ gets a pass for all his flaws. What planet are you living on. Lebron is a better scorer, rebounder and passer than Jordan was and it's not even close. Has titles with two different teams and beat a 73 win team and a legendary Spurs team in the finals. Led his teams in points, rebounds and assists along the way.

No player but him has ever done that. MJ couldn't even come close those stats.
You LeBronies crack me up. You don't even attempt to be objective.

The better scorer? He scored 11-pts (MJ has never scored that little in a playoff gm) a couple days ago in a playoff gm against a weak playoff-team and averaged 17 ppg in the finals against Dallas. LeBron has averaged 27.1 ppg for his career MJ has averaged 30.1 which includes 2-seasons when he was 38-40... Playoffs MJ 33.4 pgg LeBron 28.3 ppg.. Give me a break. No way is LeBron the better scorer.

MJ didn't need to pass as much as LeBron because he had more ways to score and was better at it in a tougher era so the whole 'LeBron is a better passer' doesn't matter as much as you would think.

LeBron is the better rebounder and a more versatile defender.. That's about the only advantage I'd give him.
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MJ gets a pass for all his flaws. What planet are you living on. Lebron is a better scorer, rebounder and passer than Jordan was and it's not even close. Has titles with two different teams and beat a 73 win team and a legendary Spurs team in the finals. Led his teams in points, rebounds and assists along the way.

No player but him has ever done that. MJ couldn't even come close those stats.
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Your basketball takes are somehow even worse than your football takes.
What a brilliant response. Since you lost the debate you throw petty insults. You sir are weak.
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You LeBronies crack me up. You don't even attempt to be objective.

The better scorer? He scored 11-pts (MJ has never scored that little in a playoff gm) a couple days ago in a playoff gm against a weak playoff-team and averaged 17 ppg in the finals against Dallas. LeBron has averaged 27.1 ppg for his career MJ has averaged 30.1 which includes 2-seasons when he was 38-40... Playoffs MJ 33.4 pgg LeBron 28.3 ppg.. Give me a break. No way is LeBron the better scorer.

MJ didn't need to pass as much as LeBron because he had more ways to score and was better at it in a tougher era so the whole 'LeBron is a better passer' doesn't matter as much as you would think.

LeBron is the better rebounder and a more versatile defender.. That's about the only advantage I'd give him.
Yep.
And again: MJ played against MUCH tougher defenses in an era where there were a lot of good teams not just 2.
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That's it? Are you a child or do you have anything else or are just an idiot.
That's all there is left to say to you.
You've been presented with the facts time and again and you remain oblivious; your comments on this are laughable.
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What a brilliant response. Since you lost the debate you throw petty insults. You sir are weak.
There is absolutely no sense in arguing with somebody who honestly believes that Lebron is a better scorer than MJ and "it's not even close". One of the dumbest things I've ever read in this thread.
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What were these dominant teams mj played against? Sure there were good teams in his era but the celtics were aging, same with the lakers and the pistons fell apart for Mike to beat them.

Lebron isn't there yet but mj gets out in a pedestal sometimes that's not realistic
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What were these dominant teams mj played against? Sure there were good teams in his era but the celtics were aging, same with the lakers and the pistons fell apart for Mike to beat them.

Lebron isn't there yet but mj gets out in a pedestal sometimes that's not realistic
It's not about the dominant teams IMO. It's about having to go through guys like Ewing and Miller just to get to the finals. Lebron gets a cakewalk every single year in the East.

I do agree that the gap isn't HUGE, but it's still significant.
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