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DE Andre Carter will be in the draft thanks to the American government.
I was reading up on prospects, watching some tape, and on drafttek's round 1 mock draft, they had the Chiefs taking DE Andre Carter out of Army.
The last paragraph stood out to me, because I hadn't caught wind of it until literally just now: Quote:
Did Congress and President Biden make it possible for a player to enter the draft? Not rendering political judgment here, just thought it was legit interesting. And sure enough: Quote:
What else could you possibly want, I ask the good citizens of teh Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum. What else could you possibly want. |
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I love this kid and think he'd look swell in Ferrari Red and Gold.
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Where is he expected to go in the draft now that he can play right away?
Top 15? |
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I'd take a hard look at him if he was on the board at the bottom of the 2nd.
He is not a top 15 prospect and I would argue he is not a first round prospect, but that's more debatable. |
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Kinda glad someone else feels the top 15 hype is a little rich. He looks like a guy where athletically the sky's the limit, but I can't see anyway he doesn't have a steep learning curve with the decent possibility of a low floor. Top 15 to me says immediate impact and I'm not sure you're getting that. What he could be year 2 or 3 is where the intrigue is.
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I don't necessarily know if he's a 1st round guy, he's more like a guy that's in that 40-50 range for me. He's probably not there in round 2 for KC. I'd definitely agree with not pushing the issue. I like some other guys a lot more at the end of one. If he absolutely crushes the combine, then maybe I start thinking about the traits and change my mind.
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I think people who are lower on the kid are not grasping just how difficult it is to get into a military academy.
It's about on par with the Ivy League. This kid is SMART and that kind of athlete? With a now instilled military discipline? Extremely low possibility that kid won't make the most of his ability. |
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You'd think his off-field traits would be off the charts. I'm interested to see what his speed and quickness numbers look like. At 6-7/255, what does he run? What's his shuttle?
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Frank Clark is one of the dumbest humans on earth and he's a smart DE. Have you seen Karlaftis? Guy is a lunkhead. You just have to be in-game smart. |
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That said, I always hated ring knockers. I also think he probably can substantially shift his physique once freed of the military constraints. Height weight and conforming to military physical training tests likely does not mesh well with training to become a professional athlete. |
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Yeah, I'm not sure if I give a shit how smart a defensive lineman is. I don't want them to be extremely stupid though, I suppose. Mostly I want guys with the mentality of see the guy with the ball, kill the guy with the ball.
Now, you start talking LB and DB, I don't want dumb shits. Dumb shits on the back 7 are what **** your defense. |
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I think you're missing my point. A smart young athlete knows he has a lot to learn and wants to work their ass off to reach their potential. I think there is little chance that Carter does not achieve his potential. A dumb-ass thinks their athletic ability is good enough. Give me the smart kid with the work ethic every time. PS-I don't think holding Frank Clark up as a measuring stick for a good but stupid DE is quite the home run swing that you think it is. |
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You watch this dude and his athleticism flys off the tape. You don’t have the stats he did without being an elite athlete. Team that with his size and I don’t see how he drops once the combine comes around, especially with his Army background and now Biden’s affiliation, the media will be all over him.
Doubt he falls out of the first, think he’d be a great complement to Karlaftis as a pass rusher as well. I bet by the time we get to the draft people will be wanting to trade up for him. If Marcus Davenport went top 20, I don’t think he’ll be far behind. |
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