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Old 03-09-2017, 11:15 PM  
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NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list
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— The Chiefs, who have been linked to most quarterbacks during the 2017 NFL Draft process so far, are in no rush to find a quarterback savior. With Alex Smith slated to be the starter in 2017 but ideally not in 2018, the Chiefs are looking for a passer with the highest upside without needing him to play as a rookie — a dream scenario for a quarterback prospect.

— I believe Patrick Mahomes is the Chiefs' QB1 from what I’ve heard, but Deshaun Watson makes sense as well. They’ll need to trade up for both. If they stay at 27, the one quarterback whom they could shockingly have interest in is Davis Webb of California. They’ve also shown interest in Nathan Peterman and Brad Kaaya, but likely don’t value either as top-two rounders.
Now, the writer of this got all of his info in the article from speaking to FO people and scouts at the combine. You can question the validity, but the Chiefs did meet with all of the players mentioned at the combine.

If this report is accurate, the Chiefs could indeed be on the path to Patrick Mahomes or Deshaun Watson holding up their jersey in 7 weeks in Philadelphia.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:38 AM   #331
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I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:51 AM   #332
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Yea, he's exactly like Manziel. Only difference is that he's bigger, has a better arm, and has all the intangibles!
What intangibles? His mechanics suck. He leaves the pocket, rolls to the right and makes some very good throws that he can get away with in college because of his excellent arm strength. That is what JM did, shit broke down and he made plays scrambling around.

The NFL is a game of being a pocket QB first and foremost.
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Old 04-04-2017, 10:54 AM   #333
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What intangibles? His mechanics suck. He leaves the pocket, rolls to the right and makes some very good throws that he can get away with in college because of his excellent arm strength. That is what JM did, shit broke down and he made plays scrambling around.

The NFL is a game of being a pocket QB first and foremost.
Aaron Rodgers says hi.

And no, I'm not saying Mahomes is going to be on that level, but it just goes to show that you can succeed playing that way in the league.
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Old 04-04-2017, 11:19 AM   #335
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Aaron Rodgers says hi.

And no, I'm not saying Mahomes is going to be on that level, but it just goes to show that you can succeed playing that way in the league.
If you look at KC's 1st round picks in the Dorsey/Reid era they're all boom or bust selections
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Old 04-04-2017, 12:42 PM   #336
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I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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In today's NFL if you whiff on a QB and get an F you've done the same toward getting a title as you did if you drafted a 1st ballot hall of famer at any other position.

Without a QB you're going nowhere.
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In today's NFL if you whiff on a QB and get an F you've done the same toward getting a title as you did if you drafted a 1st ballot hall of famer at any other position.

Without a QB you're going nowhere.
And in today's NFL if you whiff on a QB and get an F, you've done the same toward getting a title as you did if you drafted a B- or C+ in the first round.
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And in today's NFL if you whiff on a QB and get an F, you've done the same toward getting a title as you did if you drafted a B- or C+ in the first round.
Exactly.
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With a coaching staff like ours, and already a starting QB for at least another year.. you take the home run talent at QB. Dorsey knows how to draft, and Reid knows how to develop QB's. Mahomes should be the top target without question.
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Kind of off topic but I love how every draft has a QB with "Farve like arm talent"

I have yet to see another guy who could break your fingers trying to catch his passes.

Here he is at 47. Listen to the ball LEAVE his hand much less when it hits the receiver's.
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That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2) is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.
How is it a stupid analogy? If you needed a million dollar QB to win Superbowls why does Aaron Rodgers only have one almost a decade ago? Why have Manning and Wilson won it in recent years?
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How is it a stupid analogy? If you needed a million dollar QB to win Superbowls why does Aaron Rodgers only have one almost a decade ago? Why have Manning and Wilson won it in recent years?
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Bc they had great QB's AND and a lgreat team overall. Do you even realize how god awful the Packers were and have been the last few years?

Rodgers carried an 8-8 caliber team to the NFCCG.
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Bc they had great QB's AND and great team overall. Do you even realize how god awful the Packers were and have been the last few years?

Rodgers took an 8-8 caliber team to the NFCCG.
How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?

The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?

The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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The Packers had massive injuries in their secondary and couldn't stop anyone. They were 21st in points allowed and 22nd in yards allowed. They also had no RB all year...they literally had to move a WR to play RB.

Who here is saying things need to be perfect? Did you not read the post?

Despite an 8-8 team with huge holes, Rodgers put that team on his back and carried them to an NFCCG.
The Packers in no way deserves to go that far, but their QB took control.

The goal is to get one of those QB's, which Alex will never be....ever, and you trying to blame a QB like Rodgers for not dragging an average team to a SB to defend Alex is completely idiotic.
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Yea, he's exactly like Manziel. Only difference is that he's bigger, has a better arm, and has all the intangibles!
What intangibles? His fundamentals are worse than Manziels.
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