What is your stance on aliens?

[mr. tegu]

I am curious to see where everyone stands on this. Asking about a stance on UFOs could be a different topic with different options so feel to give your thoughts on that as well.

[AssEaterChief]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I can't believe no one has posted this.

It was posted somewhere…

I think it had its own thread

[thebrad84]

It really is silly to believe that another form of life has visited earth, but yet somehow managed to leave no solid evidence of such. Based on our current understanding and knowledge of the universe and our technological capabilities, it would take hundreds of years for another life form to travel from their planet to ours. To believe a species would invest the time, effort, and loss of life to make that trip, only to get here and not even say hello or blow us up for the hell of it, is quite comical to say the least.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

No. Yeah. Watch above video.

The video sucks. The only interesting part is the guy's description of it. But as we know, eye witness accounts are horribly unreliable. It doesn't show a fleet. Just a grainy blob that could be anything. The DoD spent lots of time and millions of dollars researching UFOs, and this is the best they can come up with?

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by thebrad84

It really is silly to believe that another form of life has visited earth, but yet somehow managed to leave no solid evidence of such. Based on our current understanding and knowledge of the universe and our technological capabilities, it would take hundreds of years for another life form to travel from their planet to ours. To believe a species would invest the time, effort, and loss of life to make that trip, only to get here and not even say hello or blow us up for the hell of it, is quite comical to say the least.

yes but the comedy doesnt end there

somehow these idiots believe that the 'aliens' are trying to remain secret and have harnessed the power of suns, black holes, worm holes or other extremely advanced technology

and they spend all of these resources to go to earth

so they can abduct cows and red necks and do cartwheels in the clouds..and stay silent/secret and not tell anyone...because apparently keeping this secret is top priority and the prime directive

EXCEPT THEY ACCIDENTALLY GET CAUGHT BY A VIDEO CAMERA, by a civilization millions or billions of years more primitive than them

lolz

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

"just look at the video"

LOL

It's better than the guy that used a movie as his proof.

But only marginally.

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It's better than the guy that used a movie as his proof.

But only marginally.

i totally enjoyed blair witch project man

i thought it was real

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

yes because the only possible explanation for this video is that beings from another civilization came here in 2004, not only one of them but a 'fleet' of them....they spent who knows how many resources to travel from somewhere either from another galaxy or from pretty far away in this one....

and they come here and either

1) try to remain secret , but get 'caught' by a camera from our primitive technology

or

2) don't try and remain secret and just stay too high up in the atmosphere doing cartwheels and ****ign around and never bother making an announcement to man-kind or broadcasting their message to us...

this makes so much sense

"just look at the video"

LOL

I never equated the UFOs to aliens. But I do love when people try to logic their way around this topic, as if human concepts are the only applicable reasoning to any behavior.

[jimidollar]

My stance on aliens? They're okay, I guess.

[saphojunkie]

Here are a few things to consider:

1. You assume aliens have a prime directive to stay undetected.
2. You assume aliens are visible in the physical realm by our understanding of matter.
3. You assume if you saw an alien outright, you would identify it as such.
4. You assume the only reason for intelligent lifeforms to visit earth is something you currently have thought of or can comprehend.
5. You assume the ability to travel through time and space is purely a matter of technology.

At the end of the day, I think we are a grubby little species playing with our intellectual genitals on a rock at the furthest reach of our galaxy. We are the Nevada truck stop of the Universe, and we assume that the rest of the world looks, thinks, and behaves according to our dipshit, infantile understanding of the nature of existence.

Aliens could look identical to gamma rays. They could have no measurable mass or matter. They could literally be conscious thought - isn't that the ultimate evolution?

I don't believe in abduction stories or cow mutilation or any other cliche, but to dismiss out of hand the idea that we maybe aren't the absolute pinnacle of intelligence and development in the entirety of the multiverse is so asinine that it doesn't merit argument.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

I never equated the UFOs to aliens. But I do love when people try to logic their way around this topic, as if human concepts are the only applicable reasoning to any behavior.

So what non-human reasoning are you suggesting?

[Fish]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Here are a few things to consider:

1. You assume aliens have a prime directive to stay undetected.
2. You assume aliens are visible in the physical realm by our understanding of matter.
3. You assume if you saw an alien outright, you would identify it as such.
4. You assume the only reason for intelligent lifeforms to visit earth is something you currently have thought of or can comprehend.
5. You assume the ability to travel through time and space is purely a matter of technology.

At the end of the day, I think we are a grubby little species playing with our intellectual genitals on a rock at the furthest reach of our galaxy. We are the Nevada truck stop of the Universe, and we assume that the rest of the world looks, thinks, and behaves according to our dipshit, infantile understanding of the nature of existence.

Aliens could look identical to gamma rays. They could have no measurable mass or matter. They could literally be conscious thought - isn't that the ultimate evolution?

I don't believe in abduction stories or cow mutilation or any other cliche, but to dismiss out of hand the idea that we maybe aren't the absolute pinnacle of intelligence and development in the entirety of the multiverse is so asinine that it doesn't merit argument.

That's a pretty lengthy writeup from someone who just encouraged others to make assumptions based on a grainy video.

Nobody is saying we're the absolute pinnacle of intelligence in the universe. Just that the above shitty video isn't proof of anything. I'm certainly willing to believe. But grainy videos and eye witness accounts simply don't suffice.

[Simply Red]

I like the idea of UFOs vs Aliens as far as their existence, I think it's far more likely that they've been seen but not touched - or if they have they've touched down, covertly. Aliens walking upon us? No, I don't buy into that. I do love the UFO topic though. I think most UFO videos are a shill, one channel worth watching is Tyler - which is YouTube handle Secureteam50 - I like him because he often will present the info w/o a strong opinion either way. Sometimes he'll include his insight - but he's pretty selective when he sways one direction or the other.

[Simply Red]

However if there IS an alien walking with us - it's Al Roker for sure!!!

[vailpass]

Doubt they exist but open to a good probing to prove me wrong.

[Fish]

... that Roker stare......