Let's talk about the Patriots

[cmh6476]

too soon?

[Rukdafaidas]

Is Harmon still playing a lot for the Pats? That last meeting, he looked like he was trying to run in molasses.

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

Forgot about the 29 points by SD. Man, these homers are SNEAKY.

Mason and Cannon, with Gronk/Allen are going to bury the finesse Dee Ford off that edge.

I've already responded and explained that game but you of course ignored it.
Chiefs had 3 days rest and were beaten up in OT by a physical Ravens team. We did give up 29, 15 in the last 4 minutes and that's what prompted the defensive changes you see now. Also the Chargers just put up 28 against you in Foxboro..so......

[Yehoodi]

Originally Posted by The Pest

It's not the be all end all?

The Patriots (since 2001) are 3-4 on the road in the playoffs (not the Superbowl).

Your last win on the road in the playoffs was in 2006 against the Chargers.

I did not say it did not help, nor that it would not be a factor this weekend. And yes, i wish the game was in Foxboro as i would like our chances better in Foxboro than Arrowhead.

However, when one looks at wins and looses it has as much to do with the location as with the health, talent and execution of the team.

For instance, in the weaker part of TB's run, the years '09-'12 The Pats were 3-3 at home and could of been 2-4 at home had we not stripped the ball from the Baltimore WR in the end zone in 2011 AFCCG.

Our team in '13 and '15 were injured and perhaps maybe should not of been in one of them to have a loss.

True we have won at home in the last handful of years, but that has as much to do with us being at home as it does we are a better team.

I am not saying we are going to win, but we are healthy and we are not walking into Arrowhead with Austin Collie and Matthew Mulligan at WR and Steven Jackson at RB.

In 2015 our Oline coach did not make adjustments and our center kept bobbing his head giving away the snap (both are gone btw). Brady was the most hit QB in a game since 2006 and we came one missed extra point early in the game from being able to tied it with an extra point at the end.

I do not like the idea of going into Arrowheard, but i like idea that we are healthy and the players, at least outwardly, seem hungry.

[Pats59-1]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

We are waiting on you guys to use facts that are, you know, actually true...

I've already made a post about your inaccuracies...

1. Brady is pissed and motivated.
2. A second time BB sees a young QB, NE usually wins.
3. NE is super healthy and in seasons where they are, it's usually the difference if they can get to a SB or not.

They've only been doing this for 20 years.

Have a nice day!

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

1. NE matches up very well on both sides of the ball, better than KC does.

[RobertWeathers]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

Forgot about the 29 points by SD. Man, these homers are SNEAKY.

Mason and Cannon, with Gronk/Allen are going to bury the finesse Dee Ford off that edge.

That might happen.

What also might happen is they jam 7 in the box, Sony turtles on the road. Jules is double covered and Hogs and Dorsett do jack shit.

Every game is a season in itself.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

I don't care what the number is. It's too many. He'd surge past 40 attempts on the late 3rd qtr of a game in 2007, 2011, 2012, and the offense would be compromised. If you have a run game like this with beastly blockers everywhere, it's impossible to ignore. It was significantly disproportionate to the run. Some of it was because of his ego thinking passing more leads to wins, some of it was Burkhead and Michel were out at the same time this year.

I haven't been so giddy about Pats run game in the postseason since 2004.

You can keep deflecting and denying these realities, but you'll only be crying more in those light beers come Sunday night.

You really don't understand what is going on do you? LOL...

[Beef Supreme]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

I meant SD.

Yes, you lost to SD. Also, you sneaky people keep saying "we haven't allowed 30 points", but your team allowed 29. Wow! You really got us there!

Hint: NE IS BETTER THAN SD, Balt, Houston or any of these other paper tiger teams.

Get it?

Get a degree before you post.

We also beat SD. And you lost to the ****ing Dolphins. You keep saying you want to talk about matchups, then keep bringing up things that aren't matchups. And you haven't got very many of your "facts" right on the stupid shit you are bringing up.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Chief_N_Bama

You really don't understand what is going on do you? LOL...

Chiefs lost to the Ravens.

[Chief_N_Bama]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

Did you watch the Chargers/Pats game last week?

Simple yes or no.

Did you watch the Chiefs/Colts game last week?

Simple yes or no.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

Umm, that's true. Everyone knows that. NE is notoriously inconsistent early only to build and peak later.

Holy shit this "Faketriots build and peak later" mantra must be spiked in the Kool Aid that Belichick hands out to the bandwagoning zombies, JFC.

The Faketriots lost their first two road games of the season to non-playoff teams, and lost their last two road games of the season... i.e. just a few weeks ago... i.e. their most recent road games... to non-playoff teams.

[bobbything]

Originally Posted by Pats59-1

I meant SD.

Yes, you lost to SD. Also, you sneaky people keep saying "we haven't allowed 30 points", but your team allowed 29. Wow! You really got us there!

Hint: NE IS BETTER THAN SD, Balt, Houston or any of these other paper tiger teams.

Get it?

Get a degree before you post.

You did not mean the Chargers you dolt. You said the Ravens then cited their “Tebow-esque” QB. You meant the Ravens.

Get a degree? Good one (?)

[Pats59-1]

Originally Posted by Yehoodi

I did not say it did not help, nor that it would not be a factor this weekend. And yes, i wish the game was in Foxboro as i would like our chances better in Foxboro than Arrowhead.

However, when one looks at wins and looses it has as much to do with the location as with the health, talent and execution of the team.

For instance, in the weaker part of TB's run, the years '09-'12 The Pats were 3-3 at home and could of been 2-4 at home had we not stripped the ball from the Baltimore WR in the end zone in 2011 AFCCG.

Our team in '13 and '15 were injured and perhaps maybe should not of been in one of them to have a loss.

True we have won at home in the last handful of years, but that has as much to do with us being at home as it does we are a better team.

I am not saying we are going to win, but we are healthy and we are not walking into Arrowhead with Austin Collie and Matthew Mulligan at WR and Steven Jackson at RB.

In 2015 our Oline coach did not make adjustments and our center kept bobbing his head giving away the snap (both are gone btw). Brady was the most hit QB in a game since 2006 and we came one missed extra point early in the game from being able to tied it with an extra point at the end.

I do not like the idea of going into Arrowheard, but i like idea that we are healthy and the players, at least outwardly, seem hungry.

They don't like facts. They actually think our weapons on offense right now match 2015's with Collie at WR, Edleman on one foot, no Michel, and that Steven Jackon and his walker were good options for NE @ Denver in 2015 when Denver had all they could handle and almost choked.

Thanks Steve Gotskowski.

Regardless, the fans should demand a team name change from the Chiefs to the Delusionals. lmao

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Holy shit this "Faketriots build and peak later" mantra must be spiked in the Kool Aid that Belichick hands out to the bandwagoning zombies, JFC.

The Faketriots lost their first two road games of the season to non-playoff teams, and lost their last two road games of the season... i.e. just a few weeks ago... i.e. their most recent road games... to non-playoff teams.

They will never admit the truth that this looks like one of, if not the worst Patriots teams in the Belichick era.

[8tics]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I think the difference with our pass rush vs LAC is indeed that we have Chris Jones creating pressure in the middle. It's tough to block three legitimately elite pass rushers.

As for trying to figure out our D, we are as well. The one true constant though - and it's relevant for this game - is that throughout the season it's been much, much better at home (18ppg during the regular season which was good enough for 6th in the league).

This particular Pats team has just not proven they can go win this game. Not that they can't but its just a fact. We play at home in the playoffs its a win, on the road not so much. I say it every week, pats in trouble, x team is going to sit on edelman take away the short game, and make them throw deep/intermediate routes to the WR's who Brady seems to have limited trust in. It just very rarely happens.