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Old 01-20-2019, 08:50 AM  
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RAPOPORT: Chiefs prioritizing extending Hill and Jones this offseason, may tag Ford


Hope this is all true, it makes a ton of sense. Sounds like Ford will likely be tagged, as Rapoport says they would like to keep him somehow.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:22 AM   #46
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Guess we aren’t getting that discount after all...

Good for Mahomes.
He deserves it. Guarantee you he sees guys like Trubisky, Darnold, Mayfield, and whoever else making way more money than him and he says "no discount" on the second deal. Fournette making a hell of a lot more than him and doing jack squat for the Jaguars.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:23 AM   #47
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It all the right moves but it kills the FA market for the Chiefs this offseason unless they get cut happy, gotta improve the team from here via the draft only pretty much.
Depends on structure. A lot of extensions are tacked onto the end of the current deal, meaning KC would get both players for cheap in 2019...but they also need to start earmarking $ for Mahomes deal.

With rollover KC should have 45-50m in cap space next year.

Tagging Ford will be 18 of that.
6-7 for rookie pool

Not a ton of meat left on that bone
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:25 AM   #48
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I don’t care all that much about making huge FA splashes this offseason. Just make sure you keep your stars, and hit on some draft picks. We’re already a loaded team whether we add anyone else or not from FA.
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Houston knows he can be cut anytime after this season. He can either play out a nonguaranteed contract and negotiate a worse deal later. Which also means good chance he leaves kc. Or he can negotiate a guaranteed deal that makes him a chief for life. Its in his best interest to go door #2. And they'd sign him for a hell of a lot less than if he hit the open market, plus I'm sure he'd take a hometown discount.
Are you kidding with this hometown discount nonsense?
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He deserves it. Guarantee you he sees guys like Trubisky, Darnold, Mayfield, and whoever else making way more money than him and he says "no discount" on the second deal. Fournette making a hell of a lot more than him and doing jack squat for the Jaguars.
His mom teared up when talking about how glad she was he went to Kansas city. A lot of talk about how his agent was carefully building his brand including turning down tons of endorsement deals. He grew up with a bit of money. Naive of me maybe, but I don't think money and ego will play into his decision.
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I don’t care all that much about making huge FA splashes this offseason. Just make sure you keep your stars, and hit on some draft picks. We’re already a loaded team whether we add anyone else or not from FA.
I can see them in the market for a stud safety like Earl Thomas coming here on a below market type deal because the market is going to be flooded with FA safeties like Collins, Thomas, Dix and 2-3 others. Earl is going to be the aging veteran of the group that I hope comes to KC and not NE or Indy.

It’s gonna be a buyers market.
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Old 01-20-2019, 11:31 AM   #52
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Depends on structure. A lot of extensions are tacked onto the end of the current deal, meaning KC would get both players for cheap in 2019...but they also need to start earmarking $ for Mahomes deal.

With rollover KC should have 45-50m in cap space next year.

Tagging Ford will be 18 of that.
6-7 for rookie pool

Not a ton of meat left on that bone
Even low ish hits of say $6m for Jones and Hill in 2019, after you re-sign the RFA and ERFA there's only $25-30m left, before you look at Ford and resigning any other FA like DAT, Sherman, Ware etc.
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And now of course.

We really need to win one in ALL of the next three years before it gets much harder.
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I can see them in the market for a stud safety like Earl Thomas coming here on a below market type deal because the market is going to be flooded with FA safeties like Collins, Thomas, Dix and 2-3 others.

It’s gonna be a buyers market.
Plus, there are quality safeties on 1 year deals.

Hopefully the market stays soft and the Chiefs land a 1/$3M stopgap.

Thomas is a pipe dream, IMO.
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Counting on Speaks is a recipe for disaster, he may develop into a good player, but you can’t count on it until he shows more.
We just can't afford waiting another 4yrs like we did with Ford. What we are seeing in Ford now is what we should have seen in Ford's 2nd full year. We are sooooooo fortunate he was a very late bloomer. This rarely happens. Lucky we are I say! And even then IF he gets paid which he will whether we choose to or some other team; the question will be will he go back to being unproductive and oft injured? As many do once they get paid. For me, I don't trust Ford.
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His mom teared up when talking about how glad she was he went to Kansas city. A lot of talk about how his agent was carefully building his brand including turning down tons of endorsement deals. He grew up with a bit of money. Naive of me maybe, but I don't think money and ego will play into his decision.
Very naive. He puts his body on the line, takes plenty of big hits on the field. He would be an idiot to give a big discount. Look at Alex Smith's injury.

I don't think his dad was that rich either. He wasn't a superstar in MLB and he played in a time period before the money really got out of control in sports.
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Are you kidding with this hometown discount nonsense?
Of course it plays a big part of it at this point in his career. His family is here. He's close with his teammates. He's not going to uproot everything for a few million more. If he was a free agent that would be one thing. But the Chiefs have all the leverage right now. The Chiefs can hold out on Houston. Houston would be stupid to hold out on the Chiefs. Promising him he'd stay in Kansas City is a huge cherry on top.
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One factor that has to be talked about is the Chiefs are liable to have an easier time signing players now because of Mahomes and the overall culture they have built in KC.

Some vets who are hungry to win will likely take less money to play there if the alternative is playing for a shitty team.
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One factor that has to be talked about is the Chiefs are liable to have an easier time signing players now because of Mahomes and the overall culture they have built in KC.

Some vets who are hungry to win will likely take less money to play there if the alternative is playing for a shitty team.
Exactly !! Reggie going to GB to play with Favre comes to mind.
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Even low ish hits of say $6m for Jones and Hill in 2019, after you re-sign the RFA and ERFA there's only $25-30m left, before you look at Ford and resigning any other FA like DAT, Sherman, Ware etc.
Walking for comp picks:
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