Report: Orlando Brown requests trade from Ravens, wants to play LT

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

You cant cut an injured player. He'll be back by November or December.

This actually doesn't matter!

Fisher will not be back.

Gone, in some way.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

This actually doesn't matter!

Fisher will not be back.

Gone, in some way.

Keep hope alive, brother.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Yeah, I don't really care what kind of witchcraft Veach and Andy need to work on the cap. Injury settlements with both guys seems possible. They have been very loyal Chiefs and the team has been very loyal to them.

Whatever it takes, something needs to happen. I'm not watching Mahomes go into next year with two gimpy, 30+ year old tackles taking up $20 million in cap room to not even play a snap while Mike ****ing Remmers is trying to block the best edge rushers in football.

Priority 1A, 1B and 1C should be acquiring massive, road grating, ass kicking offensive linemen in any way possible. I don't care what you think our other needs are, every single one of them can be made basically irrelevant by protecting Mahomes. It literally almost brought a god damn tear to my eye watching that kid get his ass beaten down in the Super Bowl. Andy should be ashamed of himself for watching that happen.

It simply cannot be allowed ever again. End of discussion. Whatever needs to happen, I want 2 world class tackles defending Mahomes. If the Chiefs don't make that happen, they deserve whatever they get.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Yeah, I don't really care what kind of witchcraft Veach and Andy need to work on the cap. Injury settlements with both guys seems possible. They have been very loyal Chiefs and the team has been very loyal to them.

Whatever it takes, something needs to happen. I'm not watching Mahomes go into next year with two gimpy, 30+ year old tackles taking up $20 million in cap room to not even play a snap while Mike ****ing Remmers is trying to block the best edge rushers in football.

Priority 1A, 1B and 1C should be acquiring massive, road grating, ass kicking offensive linemen in any way possible. I don't care what you think our other needs are, every single one of them can be made basically irrelevant by protecting Mahomes. It literally almost brought a god damn tear to my eye watching that kid get his ass beaten down in the Super Bowl. Andy should be ashamed of himself for watching that happen.

It simply cannot be allowed ever again. End of discussion. Whatever needs to happen, I want 2 world class tackles defending Mahomes. If the Chiefs don't make that happen, they deserve whatever they get.

You're going to be very disappointed this offseason.

Even if they find 5 new offensive linemen somewhere, none of them are going to be massive, road grading offensive linemen. Andy Reid doesn't even draft that type of guy.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You're going to be very disappointed this offseason.

Even if they find 5 new offensive linemen somewhere, none of them are going to be massive, road grading offensive linemen. Andy Reid doesn't even draft that type of guy.

Won't be me that's disappointed, it'll be Reid and KC when Mahomes pulls a Russell Wilson and starts nudging his way out because Andy is obsessed with these weak, unskilled 7th round project type offensive lineman for some absurd reason.

I'm sick of hearing about Andy's 'type of guys.' This isn't Andy's team anymore, it's Mahomes' team. They need to build around him with the type of players who help him the most, not the ones who fit Andy's tricky little scheme.

I'm also tired of hearing how it takes WRs 2-3 years to learn Reid's system. Then simplify the damn system. You don't need to be so complex when you have Jordan at QB. Just put the best players around him and let him win games for you.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Won't be me that's disappointed, it'll be Reid and KC when Mahomes pulls a Russell Wilson and starts nudging his way out because Andy is obsessed with these weak, unskilled 7th round project type offensive lineman for some absurd reason.

I'm sick of hearing about Andy's 'type of guys.' This isn't Andy's team anymore, it's Mahomes' team. They need to build around him with the type of players who help him the most, not the ones who fit Andy's tricky little scheme.

I'm also tired of hearing how it takes WRs 2-3 years to learn Reid's system. Then simplify the damn system. You don't need to be so complex when you have Jordan at QB. Just put the best players around him and let him win games for you.

So you want to do the antithesis of what Reid has done successfully, by adding "road-grading OL" and "simplifying the offense"? Wouldn't it just be easier if you fired Reid and brought in a coach who does things your way?

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

So you want to do the antithesis of what Reid has done successfully, by adding "road-grading OL" and "simplifying the offense"? Wouldn't it just be easier if you fired Reid and brought in a coach who does things your way?

I obviously do not want to fire Reid, I'm just saying it's time to just start worrying more about building around Mahomes than worrying about if they fit Reid's system. If Andy is really such a genius he can make things work.

Look at a guy like Osemele before he got hurt. He obviously wasn't an ideal fit according to what Andy generally looks for in guards, but he was by far our best interior linemen before he went down. The guy was just mauling people.

We need more like him who will actually intimidate people so they will be afraid to kick the shit out of our QB. That's all.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Won't be me that's disappointed, it'll be Reid and KC when Mahomes pulls a Russell Wilson and starts nudging his way out because Andy is obsessed with these weak, unskilled 7th round project type offensive lineman for some absurd reason.

I'm sick of hearing about Andy's 'type of guys.' This isn't Andy's team anymore, it's Mahomes' team. They need to build around him with the type of players who help him the most, not the ones who fit Andy's tricky little scheme.

I'm also tired of hearing how it takes WRs 2-3 years to learn Reid's system. Then simplify the damn system. You don't need to be so complex when you have Jordan at QB. Just put the best players around him and let him win games for you.

We won our first Super Bowl in 50 years just 1 year ago. We made our 2nd Super Bowl in 50 years last week.

And this?

Wow dude. Maybe switch to decaf?

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

We won our first Super Bowl in 50 years just 1 year ago. We made our 2nd Super Bowl in 50 years last week.

And this?

Wow dude. Maybe switch to decaf?

Yes, I'm a little riled up after watching our once in a generation QB get pulverized to an extent that I never want to see again. I don't want to 'wait' on Fisher and Schwartz and just plug in some rookie or mid tier free agent hoping those guys will be back up to form when odds are they will never get back to where they were.

Yes, I'm a little upset with Andy for watching our tackles get beaten in an embarrassing fashion while doing nothing to help them. It was utterly ridiculous.

All I'm basically getting at is we need to prioritize o-line over anything this offseason and I'd like to see Andy show a little flexibility in his system so we don't have to be so particular with OL and WR and can just plug and play talented guys. That's all.

[Wisconsin_Chief]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You're going to be very disappointed this offseason.

Even if they find 5 new offensive linemen somewhere, none of them are going to be massive, road grading offensive linemen. Andy Reid doesn't even draft that type of guy.

Yeah, doing a self bump here. I think I earned it.

The Chiefs did EXACTLY what I said they should and people told me they wouldn’t.

I’m not saying I personally know Burt Vick and he does what I tell him, but I mean in this case it sure seems possible. 😋

[DT#58]

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Yeah, I don't really care what kind of witchcraft Veach and Andy need to work on the cap. Injury settlements with both guys seems possible. They have been very loyal Chiefs and the team has been very loyal to them.

Whatever it takes, something needs to happen. I'm not watching Mahomes go into next year with two gimpy, 30+ year old tackles taking up $20 million in cap room to not even play a snap while Mike ****ing Remmers is trying to block the best edge rushers in football.

Priority 1A, 1B and 1C should be acquiring massive, road grating, ass kicking offensive linemen in any way possible. I don't care what you think our other needs are, every single one of them can be made basically irrelevant by protecting Mahomes. It literally almost brought a god damn tear to my eye watching that kid get his ass beaten down in the Super Bowl. Andy should be ashamed of himself for watching that happen.

It simply cannot be allowed ever again. End of discussion. Whatever needs to happen, I want 2 world class tackles defending Mahomes. If the Chiefs don't make that happen, they deserve whatever they get.

Yes, the top priority absolutely has to be to rebuild the Oline.
When you have a $500 million dollar investment, protecting that investment take precedent over any other areas of need.
The thinking that having an average or below Oline is sufficient because Mahomes can bail the offence out has to stop.
Of the first 5 rounds of the draft, at least 2 of those picks must be Olinemen

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DT#58

Yes, the top priority absolutely has to be to rebuild the Oline.
When you have a $500 million dollar investment, protecting that investment take precedent over any other areas of need.
The thinking that having an average or below Oline is sufficient because Mahomes can bail the offence out has to stop.
Of the first 5 rounds of the draft, at least 2 of those picks must be Olinemen

Nope.

They need to stay with their board. Picking OL just to pick OL is how you end up with an expensive line that doesn't improve.

[DT#58]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Nope.

They need to stay with their board. Picking OL just to pick OL is how you end up with an expensive line that doesn't improve.

Nope?
The primary need on this team is OT.
If theres a first round graded OT at 31 you take him.
And before round 5 you take at least one other Olineman.
How in the world does that not improve the Oline?
To assume you end up with an expensive Oline thats crap is saying the team doesnt know how to draft talent.
Really thats a indictment on Vietch.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DT#58

Nope?
The primary need on this team is OT.
If theres a first round graded OT at 31 you take him.
And before round 5 you take at least one other Olineman.
How in the world does that not improve the Oline?
To assume you end up with an expensive Oline thats crap is saying the team doesnt know how to draft talent.
Really thats a indictment on Vietch.

You NEVER go into the draft saying that at least 2 of your first 5 picks MUST be a certain position.

That's not how a good team approaches the draft, period.

Now, you've clarified to say that if there's a 1st-round graded OT there at 31 you take him. I agree with that.

I simply do not agree that they MUST do anything in the draft. There's also free agency and before they can do any of it, they have to figure out what the plan is for Fisher.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by DT#58

Yes, the top priority absolutely has to be to rebuild the Oline.
When you have a $500 million dollar investment, protecting that investment take precedent over any other areas of need.
The thinking that having an average or below Oline is sufficient because Mahomes can bail the offence out has to stop.
Of the first 5 rounds of the draft, at least 2 of those picks must be Olinemen

I'd use FA as part of the O-Line rebuild. That way you KNOW what you're getting. Use the draft for depth and BAP. Don't be pigeon holed into "having" to take players of need. It's how you get into trouble. Remember Scott Pioli's 1st pick...YIKES!