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Old 11-17-2017, 08:24 PM  
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*** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository ***
It's the end of the world as we know it... and we feel... fine?

2018 is a season of transition for the Royals, or at least it is at this point. Dayton Moore is back. Will he swing full into THE PROCESS 2.0? Or will he try to load up again and make some reload magic happen?

Pending Free Agents:
1B | Eric Hosmer | San Diego Padres, 8 years, $144 million ($5 million signing bonus; $20 million/year in Yrs 1-5; $13 million/year in Yrs 6-8 wth player opt out)
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3B | Mike Moustaskas | Kansas City Royas, 1, $6.5 million
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CF | Lorenzo Cain | Milwaukee Brewers, 5 years, $80 million
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RP | Mike Minor | Texas Rangers, 3, $28 million
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SP | Jason Vargas | New York Mets, 2, $16 million
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SS | Alcides Escobar | Kansas City Royals, 1, $2.5 million
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2018 MLB Draft Picks
#18
#33 - Compensation (Eric Hosmer)
#34 - Compensation (Lorenzo Cain)
#40 (Competitive Balance Round A)

Comp picks explanation:
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2018 Draft Names to Watch

RHP Kumar Rocker, N Oconnee HS, Georgia.
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OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukasha West HS, WI
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1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS (FL).
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RHP Carter Stewart, Eau de Gallie HS (Ga).
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ANY Any, Any (Any). Any current top projected pick who slides for injury concerns. Includes current top prospect prospect SP Brady Singer, U of Florida.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:14 PM   #2116
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:14 PM   #2117
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Let's be real here: Duda and Moose are most likely not going to be on the roster after the trade deadline unless both suck complete ass.

Everyone who has a hardon to see Cutty and Dozier are probably going to be satiated.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:15 PM   #2118
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Something that might get lost in the shuffle. The cost/terms of this contract are way too team-friendly for this to be a Boris-led decision. I gotta' believe Moose was just ready to play ball and directed Boras to get something done with the most likely taker - KC. He had to be thinking, "forget about this waiting until after June 1st ***t. Get me signed to a team, Scott."


Whether true or not I don’t know, but it makes sense to me.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:16 PM   #2119
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Let's be real here: Duda and Moose are most likely not going to be on the roster after the trade deadline unless both suck complete ass.

Everyone who has a hardon to see Cutty and Dozier are probably going to be satiated.
This. These guys could both pan out to be trade pieces come the deadline...thus speeding up and contributing to the rebuild. If both are healthy and productive, they’re easy guys to move for solid prospects. Unlike dane may lead you to believe, DM knows what the **** he’s doing. Especially with the team-friendly deals they’ve signed. Teams needing a big bat rental would be all over that shit.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:18 PM   #2120
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If Gordon and Esky can at least be close to below average offensively at their positions and Kennedy can be better than a dumpster fire we could be around .500 at the ASB.

The lineup is respectable especially if we are platooning Jay and Duda.

Duffy, Karns, and Junis can be good.
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If Gordon and Esky can at least be close to below average offensively at their positions and Kennedy can be better than a dumpster fire we could be around .500 at the ASB.

The lineup is respectable especially if we are platooning Jay and Duda.

Duffy, Karns, and Junis can be good.
Agreed. Hell, if Gordon can even come close to rebounding and Soler can contribute...and our rotation can stay healthy...this team has a legitimate chance to be even ABOVE .500 at the break. As crazy as that sounds, it’s true. I’m excited for the mix of young and old with these most recent signings. This might actually be a fun team to watch.
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Old 03-08-2018, 10:35 PM   #2123
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Soler is probably the only prospect in the system you have to give ML at bats to.

Beyond that, I don't get the handwringing about signing Moose and Duda. Mondesi is definitely not ready for the show. I'd guess same is said for Dozier, and is Cuthbert seriously considered as a potential long term starter for any major league team beyond the Reds?
The Reds have the best 3B prospect in baseball (Nick Senzel, get him in fantasy), so he wouldn't start for them... (more Cuthbert thoughts below)

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Nonsense. All the guys you listed were premier prospects.
Lorenzo Cain actually was not ever a top 100 guy, something Cuthbert garnered a few times when he was younger.

Cuthbert's plate discipline, contact skills, and solid power potential are worth diving into.

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In addition to a "not terrible" lineup, we would definitely need Kennedy to have a near-career season and Junis to continue forward on his 2017 and Duffy to repeat last year's performance. Certainly not a crazy scenario. And what if Karnes picks up where he left off? I still think the bullpen could be the surprise part of the roster - several power arms and former-starter types that could excel in short stints.
They've got enough competent pieces to surprise some people if a few things click.

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This. These guys could both pan out to be trade pieces come the deadline...thus speeding up and contributing to the rebuild. If both are healthy and productive, they’re easy guys to move for solid prospects. Unlike dane may lead you to believe, DM knows what the **** he’s doing. Especially with the team-friendly deals they’ve signed. Teams needing a big bat rental would be all over that shit.
I wouldn't expect anything for rental players of major note unless the trade market is way, way different next year.

MAYBE the Yankees give up something decent for Moustakas, if neither Andjuar nor Drury has handled the hot corner adequately. But it's hard to see him returning much.
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Heck we might as well go for it this point.

The trade market for position players has completely tanked. The big market teams are all developing their own position players. You can even use the Royals as an example. We just signed two legit 30 HR guys for under 10 million dollars. Just a few years ago that would have been insane. You think anyone is giving up anything of value for either of them? Your best bet is the Yankees 3B situation completely tanks, and there's zero reason to bank on that.

I'm a big fan of Cuthbert though. He's young and has a lot of raw talent. He might not make it, but you'll never know if you don't give him the chance. Duda's making 3 million dollars. I'd put Moose at 1B and Cuthbert at 3B unless Cuthbert completely bombs spring training. Cuthbert is probably a step quicker at this point anyway.
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He's prob trying to win 77 games. That's my guess. We have a shitty farm system with only 1 premium AAA guy in Mondesi so nobody is being blocked. I think Moose is a really good MLB player and the price is unbeatable, this is a no brainer. Duda....Nolasco, jay, irrelevant.
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Nonsense. All the guys you listed were premier prospects.
You sure? Because this guy had some strong thoughts about them.

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Anyone want to take some long-term, big money action on Cuthbert never being anything more than a bench/utility guy? Serious question.
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Anyone want to take some long-term, big money action on Cuthbert never being anything more than a bench/utility guy? Serious question.
Well that's all he's ever going to be if they don't play him. He's not some scrub. He played in the Futures game, he's ripped up AAA the last two times he played there, he's 25 and absolutely passed the eye test in 2016 when he got a chance.

During Moustakas' year 25 season he hit .212 and got sent to AAA. People were starting to give up on him.
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*** Official 2018 Royals Offseason Repository ***
Opening Day lineup projection:

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