Mock Offseason 2/3/19

[ntexascardfan]

If we're going to fix the secondary lets really fix the secondary.

Packing our two firsts could get us borderline top ten according to the NFL draft value chart.

Trade those up to a Green Bay or a Cinci type team and get Greedy. (who ranges anywhere from top 5 to 18-19 in drafts I've seen, I'm simply averaging out his mock values)

Take the money you want to give Darby and go get Landon Collins

Fuller/Greedy
Berry/Collins

I feel like that's a secondary we could all live with.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

If we're going to fix the secondary lets really fix the secondary.

Packing our two firsts could get us borderline top ten according to the NFL draft value chart.

Trade those up to a Green Bay or a Cinci type team and get Greedy. (who ranges anywhere from top 5 to 18-19 in drafts I've seen, I'm simply averaging out his mock values)

Take the money you want to give Darby and go get Landon Collins

Fuller/Greedy
Berry/Collins

I feel like that's a secondary we could all live with.

I don't think Greedy's even that good, man. There's no damn way I'd crater the top of the draft to get him instead of Baker. I think as more and more teams start to dig into him, he's going to slide and may not even be the #1 corner when all is said and done.

He just looks a little oversized and stiff to be a true shutdown CB these days. I know that's counter-intuitive and maybe the combine will make me look stupid, but he just doesn't look as fluid as I thought he would. It's probably just that he's so damn long that he looks more awkward than he is.

I'm just not going to give up that kind of capital to get him (I dunno where you got the 'two firsts' but I presume we're using our original 1st and both our 2nds to move up into the top 10 in your scenario).

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't think Greedy's even that good, man. There's no damn way I'd crater the top of the draft to get him instead of Baker. I think as more and more teams start to dig into him, he's going to slide and may not even be the #1 corner when all is said and done.

He just looks a little oversized and stiff to be a true shutdown CB these days. I know that's counter-intuitive and maybe the combine will make me look stupid, but he just doesn't look as fluid as I thought he would. It's probably just that he's so damn long that he looks more awkward than he is.

I'm just not going to give up that kind of capital to get him (I dunno where you got the 'two firsts' but I presume we're using our original 1st and both our 2nds to move up into the top 10 in your scenario).

If you're gonna trade that much, just go get Ramsey who you know is a legit #1.

[ntexascardfan]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you're gonna trade that much, just go get Ramsey who you know is a legit #1.

We traded away an attitude problem in Peterson and you want to bring in a toxic player in Ramsey?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

We traded away an attitude problem in Peterson and you want to bring in a toxic player in Ramsey?

Just out of curiosity - how much digging have you done on Williams?

You don't have to go too far to find people asking about his love of football, his motor, his compete level.

Now I'm not saying it's fair to discount him because of those reports - they happen all the time. But if you're going to refer to Marcus Peters as an attitude problem, well Greedy has a few of those same red flags on his resume. The words 'business decisions' pop up a little more often than you'd like to see.

[ntexascardfan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Just out of curiosity - how much digging have you done on Williams?

You don't have to go too far to find people asking about his love of football, his motor, his compete level.

Now I'm not saying it's fair to discount him because of those reports - they happen all the time. But if you're going to refer to Marcus Peters as an attitude problem, well Greedy has a few of those same red flags on his resume. The words 'business decisions' pop up a little more often than you'd like to see.

There's a difference between that and being absolutely toxic in a locker room.

There are plenty of players in the NFL who play as a business decision and are still good players and great team mates.

Give me those guys all day over the antics Ramsey pulled with the Jags this season.

Ramsey also went from the second rated corner to last year being the thirty fourth ranked. He seems to have issues with want to at times as well.

[Mother****erJones]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't think Greedy's even that good, man. There's no damn way I'd crater the top of the draft to get him instead of Baker. I think as more and more teams start to dig into him, he's going to slide and may not even be the #1 corner when all is said and done.

He just looks a little oversized and stiff to be a true shutdown CB these days. I know that's counter-intuitive and maybe the combine will make me look stupid, but he just doesn't look as fluid as I thought he would. It's probably just that he's so damn long that he looks more awkward than he is.

I'm just not going to give up that kind of capital to get him (I dunno where you got the 'two firsts' but I presume we're using our original 1st and both our 2nds to move up into the top 10 in your scenario).

I’ll be honest. I like Joejuan even over Greedy. Joejuan is going to be a stud.