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Old 01-20-2021, 03:46 PM  
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Car help for a co-worker

Co-worker owns a new Ford Escape. It has the auto shut off whenever she stops. However, while her foot is still on the brake, her car dies (she shouldn't have to actually restart her car whenever she stops). It's currently at the dealership, and they've had it for over 24 hours and say they can't find anything wrong with her car. Upon googling the issue, the common cause for this to happen would be a broken torque converter or low fluid level in the transmission. She's baffled as to why the dealership can't find anything wrong. Just thought I'd bring the issue to the CP mechanics.

PS. I've also seen videos and links regarding how to disable this feature. If it's doing what she says, though, she wants to find out what the issue is before disabling anything, plus she's afraid doing so would void her warranty.
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:03 PM   #31
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:13 PM   #32
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:14 PM   #33
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I have a 19 Ford Ranger that has A.S.S. (auto start stop) as we call it. You can turn it off and on while operating the vehicle but the damn thing always goes back to on after you shut the truck down. There is a module to plug in to behind the switch that retains the the last setting and for the Ranger it's about 80 bucks.

As for your friend Luv I would suspect a software issue. A few of the guys on the Ranger forums I go to have had to have theirs fixed via software patch. If that dealer can't fix it tell her to try another. I think Springfield's dealer is Corwin Ford and that is where she is taking it. Maybe try Republic Ford in Republic.
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:34 PM   #34
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That ASS system looks like it sucks. Even though it's good for emissions, I would hate it.


It sounds like they are fooling the module, If it's $80 from Ford, it's probably $5 from a electronics supply store.

It's been years but Republic Ford treated me right on 5 cars and trucks, never used thier service dept.
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Old 01-20-2021, 05:48 PM   #35
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:04 PM   #36
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the cars that shutoff at stops to me are stupid. oh hey...want to save a drop of fuel but will constantly just start your car 36748 times a day instead. dumb.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:36 PM   #37
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I doubt it's transmission related at all. Low ATF would cause slow or late shifts. A bad Torque converter would be wildly noticeable while driving. You'd have stalls, failed shifts etc.
It could be if the clutches in the tranny engaging are the impetus for it to switch the motor off.

As you stated it’s probably a voltage problem. **** all that.

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That ASS system looks like it sucks. Even though it's good for emissions, I would hate it.


It sounds like they are fooling the module, If it's $80 from Ford, it's probably $5 from a electronics supply store.

It's been years but Republic Ford treated me right on 5 cars and trucks, never used thier service dept.
Dads got one on hos Silverado. It’s stupid. As a guy that’s wore out a starter or two in my day, it’s stupid.

And I’m sure it’s a high dollar bastard. It cranks fast as hell compared to my 2015 without ASS (I’m stealing that, Treb). It is pretty impressive they made it work, but I don’t want any part of it.

I’m guessing it’s a fuel mileage issue as opposed to an emissions one, but yeah. Seems like a lot of engineering for not a lot of gain.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:40 PM   #38
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the cars that shutoff at stops to me are stupid. oh hey...want to save a drop of fuel but will constantly just start your car 36748 times a day instead. dumb.
Especially when the bulk of engine wear occurs at startup.
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Old 01-20-2021, 06:57 PM   #39
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Old 01-20-2021, 07:10 PM   #41
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the cars that shutoff at stops to me are stupid. oh hey...want to save a drop of fuel but will constantly just start your car 36748 times a day instead. dumb.
I spent a ton of time in Europe 4 years back. 2 weeks every 6 weeks in spring and summer. son was racing over there and we always had rental cars. His race engineer and I used to laugh at the auto shut off. He swore up and down that it was a conspiracy brought on the masses by the greenies and the Robert Bosch company (makes auto starters).
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Old 01-20-2021, 07:28 PM   #43
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It sounds like they are fooling the module, If it's $80 from Ford, it's probably $5 from a electronics supply store.
The module is not a Ford part. https://www.autostopeliminator.com/c...top-eliminator

85 bucks for the Ranger. They make them for almost all makes and models including the Escape.
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