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Old 01-05-2018, 12:41 PM  
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Jon Gruden signs 10-year $100M deal to be Raiders HC
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Raiders are giving new head coach Jon Gruden a 10-year contract, the longest coaching deal in NFL history, sources tell ESPN. The deal is likely to be worth about $100 million. - @AdamSchefter
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:09 PM   #151
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When you wonder why Jimmy Buffet has a music career.... and what kind of subhumans could possibly support such tripe...look no further.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:11 PM   #152
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Betting Al Davis's kid feels like this is his version of signing John Madden to coach the team.. now just kick back and watch the wins come in. Doubtful.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:24 PM   #153
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Don't know if this was mentioned

Please remember--this is the Raiders and Mark Davis is still in charge. Along with the ghost of Al.
Mark looks weird but overall he has done a pretty good job , he is no cheapo and has built the team up pretty nicely, When he took over The Raiders could not even get a coach to come here and the team was in cap hell. Reggie has done a damn good job with the cap , a couple of his drafts look bleek but the Raiders are going in the right direction. You don't get to the SB in 5 years from rock bottom (or 50 years for the cheaps)
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:25 PM   #154
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And in Tampa, his QB was Brad Johnson. So, I'd cut him a little slack there. Yeah, I don't think he's a great coach, either. But I think a lot of folks in this thread are selling him a little short.
Brad Johnson had a career record of 72-53, 166 TD's vs. 122 INT's, had a career 61.7 completion percentage and threw for more than 4,000 yards on season while throwing for more than 3,000 yards several times (3,036 and 3,039 in 13 games, 3,406, 3,811 in 16 games, etc.).

I don't get this notion that Johnson was somehow "bad" or below average.

When healthy, he was a solid, if not above average NFL QB.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:31 PM   #155
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I have to imagine this is a lot of window dressing and can't be fully guaranteed. What if he ends up disappointing and they want to move on after 5 years? There has to be some sort of buyout language where Davis isn't handing him 50M otherwise this is the stupidest contact in history.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:34 PM   #156
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Brad Johnson had a career record of 72-53, 166 TD's vs. 122 INT's, had a career 61.7 completion percentage and threw for more than 4,000 yards on season while throwing for more than 3,000 yards several times (3,036 and 3,039 in 13 games, 3,406, 3,811 in 16 games, etc.).

I don't get this notion that Johnson was somehow "bad" or below average.

When healthy, he was a solid, if not above average NFL QB.
That's the problem with Gruden, though. He has a reputation as a QB guru, but the only QBs he did any winning with were guys that whose dies were already cast long before he arrived on the scene. He had no patience with young QBs as a coach and it severely hamstrung the Bucs until they shitcanned him.

The truth is that he was a Brad Johnson level NFL coach when people make him out to be elite. Personally, I wouldn't have traded the life of an NFL commentator making $6.5 million per year for a coach making $10 million, either, but that's his decision.
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I like it. It's a win-win. Fade pays top dollar for an average coach, and the fans don't have to listen to spider 2Y banana anymore.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:43 PM   #158
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That's the problem with Gruden, though. He has a reputation as a QB guru, but the only QBs he did any winning with were guys that whose dies were already cast long before he arrived on the scene. He had no patience with young QBs as a coach and it severely hamstrung the Bucs until they shitcanned him.

The truth is that he was a Brad Johnson level NFL coach when people make him out to be elite. Personally, I wouldn't have traded the life of an NFL commentator making $6.5 million per year for a coach making $10 million, either, but that's his decision.
Agreed.

This seems like more of a P.R. move than a football move.

The Raiders are stuck in Oakland for at least 2 more seasons and they can't sell 50,000 seats, so maybe Gruden's presence will help. It'll also help sell PSL's when the new stadium open in Vegas. I just don't expect him to win many football games along the way.

Also, a contract that runs to 2027?



That's insane.
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Old 01-05-2018, 04:45 PM   #159
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Mark looks weird but overall he has done a pretty good job , he is no cheapo and has built the team up pretty nicely, When he took over The Raiders could not even get a coach to come here and the team was in cap hell. Reggie has done a damn good job with the cap , a couple of his drafts look bleek but the Raiders are going in the right direction. You don't get to the SB in 5 years from rock bottom (or 50 years for the cheaps)
It’s been 48 years, thank you very much.
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Shit.

But in all honesty, what young QB has Jon Gruden developed? Rich Gannon was plug and play and Brad Johnson was well-seasoned. Jeff Garcia was old as hell.

There's zero guarantee he is gonna fix Carr.
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You look at most long tenured coaches and the messge is stale before 10 years hits unless you're winning rings.
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We shall see if his heart is truly in it.....or it was just an offer he could not refuse to help pad his retirement account......


at the very least it will be fun having Chucky in the division again.
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