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Old 01-05-2013, 08:26 AM   #1
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That's fair enough.

I do not know how active or token his role was at that point. I really doubt Clark, as CEO in 2005, could have just fired Peterson if he wanted to.

I'm saying the track record of EFFORT is there. The track record of success is not. The major criticism against him, that he doesn't care... would rather play soccer, are all bullshit.

Almost every decision he's made has been wrong, but they haven't been cheap.
Except for a small but not insignificant 26.6 million of salary cap..
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:30 AM   #2
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That's fair enough.

I do not know how active or token his role was at that point. I really doubt Clark, as CEO in 2005, could have just fired Peterson if he wanted to.

I'm saying the track record of EFFORT is there. The track record of success is not. The major criticism against him, that he doesn't care... would rather play soccer, are all bullshit.

Almost every decision he's made has been wrong, but they haven't been cheap.
the major complaint (and compliment, it seems) is that Clark Hunt has managed to pull out million$ in in annual profits while the team avg's 6 - 10 each season.

The problem with this organization has long been accountability. There seems to be a parallel universe in this fanbase -- some folks think the Hunt's are just peachy keen for being great businessmen while others hate the fact they have paid in so much for so little.
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Old 01-05-2013, 09:20 AM   #3
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48 - 80, zero playoff wins, zero championships. that is Clark's legacy. Hardly good, not even great.
mor(e)on Clark's Legacy;

2012= last place AFCW
2011= last place AFCW
2010= 1st place AFCW
2009= last place AFCW
2008= last place AFCW
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2006= 2nd place AFCW
2005= 2nd place AFCW


Take a bow?

That could be the worst 8 - season - beginning for any NFL owner.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:16 AM   #4
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Nonetheless he deserves a pat on the back. We have our coach and already assembling the staff this early, unlike when we did the Haley hire.
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Nonetheless he deserves a pat on the back. We have our coach and already assembling the staff this early, unlike when we did the Haley hire.
This is true. You can't say he dragged his heels on this one. And, to be fair, I sort of understand and forgive him for doing so on his previous occasion. His father was not there to consult or to advise. He was on his own for that one and perhaps a bit gun shy. I think he learned his lesson and hopefully will be more proactive on all major decisions in the future.
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FTR I never referred Clark or the Hunt's as "cheap". Only stupid. as in poor choices in spending and allowing an organization to run amok with each new "staff of hope".

Until this ownership actually puts in the effort to win, it won't happen but sporadically.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:26 AM   #7
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Haters are going to hate, the hateful little bitches.

Clark is emerging as a pretty interesting guy, actually. It appears he is willing to spend enormous amounts of money in exchange for a good night's sleep knowing that the franchise is in good hands. No meddler, he.

I have always heard that Clark was "competitive". Almost everyone who knows him personally and speaks to the media about him eventually uses that adjective. So far as I am concerned, Clark's actions over the past few days speak to his desire to field a competitive team and I believe him to be a person who wants to win. He also must have a slight streak of "totally malicious vindictive asshole" in him, because castrating Dr. Evil in public then hauling him around as part of the HCIS (head coach interview squad) was kinda mean (although in retrospect, I really like it).

Difficult to read. Competitive. Wealthy and willing to spend cash. Doesn't meddle. Mean as hell.

The perfect owner.

You go, Clark!

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Old 01-05-2013, 08:47 AM   #8
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Haters are going to hate, the hateful little bitches.

Clark is emerging as a pretty interesting guy, actually. It appears he is willing to spend enormous amounts of money in exchange for a good night's sleep knowing that the franchise is in good hands. No meddler, he.

I have always heard that Clark was "competitive". Almost everyone who knows him personally and speaks to the media about him eventually uses that adjective. So far as I am concerned, Clark's actions over the past few days speak to his desire to field a competitive team and I believe him to be a person who wants to win. He also must have a slight streak of "totally malicious vindictive asshole" in him, because castrating Dr. Evil in public then hauling him around as part of the HCIS (head coach interview squad) was kinda mean (although in retrospect, I really like it).

Difficult to read. Competitive. Wealthy and willing to spend cash. Doesn't meddle. Mean as hell.

The perfect owner.

You go, Clark!

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Time will tell, but I sort of believe Pioli is going to be the guy who turned Clark into the owner we all want him to be. I think Pioli was one expensive... but necessary... lesson that Clark needed to learn.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:58 AM   #9
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Time will tell, but I sort of believe Pioli is going to be the guy who turned Clark into the owner we all want him to be. I think Pioli was one expensive... but necessary... lesson that Clark needed to learn.
There's probably a great amount of truth to that, Mr. Coogs. Dr. Evil was a major swing and a miss for Clark. Major.

As for Reid, I think I might have gone another way with the hire, but I can definitely understand why Clark made that choice. This franchise is completely screwed up at this juncture. Everywhere you look, there's dysfunction and abject failure. There's no pride, no confidence, and no quarterback. Reid brings with him the ability to change that and, if he hits on the QB, pretty successfully, too.

But, if nothing else, Clark has completely dispelled the myth that he is cheap and uncaring ... nobody, other than the true knuckleheads, can claim that any longer.

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Old 01-05-2013, 09:00 AM   #10
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Haters are going to hate, the hateful little bitches.

Clark is emerging as a pretty interesting guy, actually. It appears he is willing to spend enormous amounts of money in exchange for a good night's sleep knowing that the franchise is in good hands. No meddler, he.

I have always heard that Clark was "competitive". Almost everyone who knows him personally and speaks to the media about him eventually uses that adjective. So far as I am concerned, Clark's actions over the past few days speak to his desire to field a competitive team and I believe him to be a person who wants to win. He also must have a slight streak of "totally malicious vindictive asshole" in him, because castrating Dr. Evil in public then hauling him around as part of the HCIS (head coach interview squad) was kinda mean (although in retrospect, I really like it).

Difficult to read. Competitive. Wealthy and willing to spend cash. Doesn't meddle. Mean as hell.

The perfect owner.

You go, Clark!

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I bet he stayed at a Holliday INN on his viset to Philadelphia.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:58 AM   #11
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I'm not a big fan of simply applauding effort. I'm a results oriented person. Having said that, Clark is a relatively young owner, who seems to be learning as he goes and willing to make changes which is tantamount to admitting his mistakes. That makes him bold and humble in my book.

Will Reid work out? I'd say the odds are quite good actually. He's proven, and struggled the last couple of seasons in a city where the hatred makes the SOC movement look tame. He needs a change of scenery IMO, and he'll get great scenery here in KC. The Chiefs needed a bold move, and Clark delivered again. He gets an "A" for effort, and there's a lot to be said for that. Now we must watch what happens. Clark should get kudos for this move, and he gets plenty from me. He certainly could have made a "safer" move, but this shit is bold. The cost in money and credibility hang in the balance, and Clark cares not. That is a fine owner right there. I'm very optimistic, but I gotta see results.

This is a great day to be a Chiefs fan though. Bring on the draft. WE AT LEAST HAVE HOPE AGAIN! GO CHIEFS!!
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Give me a ****ing break. Anyone who wants to criticize Clark at this point is a ****ing idiot beyond reprieve. He went out 4 years ago and hired THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. How was he to know it wouldn't work out? He couldn't possibly. And the second it became apparent that it was a dumpster fire, he sidelined his personal feelings, dumped everyone, and went out and HIRED THE VERY BEST CANDIDATE AVAILABLE. All at great expense to himself, and his family. **** you assholes. Clark Hunt is a GREAT owner.
I had my doubts when he didn't fire Pioli on Monday. He ate a lot of money to get the fanbase back. Whether you like the hire or not Clark can't be criticized much.
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I had my doubts when he didn't fire Pioli on Monday. He ate a lot of money to get the fanbase back. Whether you like the hire or not Clark can't be criticized much.
I've mentioned this before, but to me the most intriguing thing Clark said during the 2013 Dr. Evil Castration Media Tour was in response to a question about Clark's reputation (or perception, really) as a cheapskate.

Clark said this (and I paraphrase as best I can); "We had the 3rd highest cash payroll in the league last year. But, based on the results on the field, that isn't something I'm very proud of."

That, my friend, is an ass-kicking statement from your owner. And, frankly, I'm surprised it didn't get more traction around the city. He's saying he'll spend money but he expects something in return and gets pissed off when he's basically taken for a fool.

Then, of course, because no one else seems to be able to do so, he proceeds to take it upon himself to fix the problem.

There's more to Clark than meets the eye. We should be damn happy to have him.

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I've mentioned this before, but to me the most intriguing thing Clark said during the 2013 Dr. Evil Castration Media Tour was in response to a question about Clark's reputation (or perception, really) as a cheapskate.

Clark said this (and I paraphrase as best I can); "We had the 3rd highest cash payroll in the league last year. But, based on the results on the field, that isn't something I'm very proud of."

That, my friend, is an ass-kicking statement from your owner. And, frankly, I'm surprised it didn't get more traction around the city. He's saying he'll spend money but he expects something in return and gets pissed off when he's basically taken for a fool.

Then, of course, because no one else seems to be able to do so, he proceeds to take it upon himself to fix the problem.

There's more to Clark than meets the eye. We should be damn happy to have him.

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Call me a "true fan", but I think Clark just scored a touchdown with Reid & Co. I'm gonna stand up and cheer.
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