Chiefs Referee Ron Torbert's crew assigned to work Chiefs-Bengals game

Realbaddog · 01-27-2023, 08:41 AM

Oh great, almost as bad as Cheffers.

Ninth-year NFL referee Ron Torbert and his crew have been assigned as the officials for the AFC Championship Game between the Kansas City Chiefs and Cincinnati Bengals.

Torbert hasn’t officiated a Chiefs game this season, but fans will remember him from 2021, and not in a good way. He was an unscheduled white-hat substitution for John Hussey against the Bengals during their Week 17 regular-season loss. During that game, Torbert’s crew called 10 penalties for 83 yards against Kansas City. It was the second-most penalties the Chiefs had called against them in a single game that season.

If we’re only considering the 2022 NFL season as evidence, Torbert and his crew have been among the best in the league in terms of penalty volume. In 16 games officiated, their 172 penalties called are good for the fourth-fewest in the NFL. That said, once a penalty is called by Torbert’s crew, expect it to stand. Their 20 dismissed penalties are the second-fewest in the NFL this season. They’ve officiated fairly even on the home (89) and away (83) fronts so far this season.

As far as how this crew officiates, they’re definitely not a “let them play” crew and they almost always side with the offense. Torbert’s 17 defensive pass interference penalties tie for the second-most in the league this season. For comparison’s sake, they’ve only called four offensive pass interference penalties all year. The Chiefs lead the NFL in defensive pass interference penalties this season (14) while the Bengals are right around the league average (6). Basically, expect Ja’Marr Chase to continue to get away with pushing off and Chiefs defenders to be penalized for any contact downfield.

https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2023...nnati-bengals/

htismaqe · 01-27-2023, 08:42 AM

The playoffs are different. This means nothing.

Wisconsin_Chief · 01-27-2023, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The playoffs are different. This means nothing.

So far, you are correct. Officiating has been fair and consistent.

I hope to high hell you remain correct.

htismaqe · 01-27-2023, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

So far, you are correct. Officiating has been fair and consistent.

I hope to high hell you remain correct.

It's not just that.

In the playoffs, they use "all star" crews.

Ron Torbert himself isn't responsible for calling penalties. His crew does. And his crew won't be at the game.

Chief Roundup · 01-27-2023, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's not just that.

In the playoffs, they use "all star" crews.

Ron Torbert himself isn't responsible for calling penalties. His crew does. And his crew won't be at the game.

Some of what you are saying is true these are different "crews" but stop acting like Torbert, Clete, and Carl don't have flags and throw them. Disingenuous at best.

Wisconsin_Chief · 01-27-2023, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Some of what you are saying is true these are different "crews" but stop acting like Torbert, Clete, and Carl don't have flags and throw them. Disingenuous at best.

Blakeman is the one who personally threw the flag when Chris Jones lightly brushed the helmet of Tommy Boy. Talk about changing the entire course of a game with one flag that never should have occurred.

I'll never, ever forget that one. There's zero excuse for it, except wanting to directly influence the result of the game.

Pepe Silvia · 01-27-2023, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

So far, you are correct. Officiating has been fair and consistent.

I hope to high hell you remain correct.

I agree, hope it stays that way.

HC_Chief · 01-27-2023, 08:48 AM

Cheffers
Blakeman
Smith
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Everybody else <---- As long as we are here, it should be okay

-King- · 01-27-2023, 08:49 AM

People are preemptively bitching about officiating without even knowing that playoff crews are different from regular season crews. It's fascinating.

htismaqe · 01-27-2023, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

People are preemptively bitching about officiating without even knowing that playoff crews are different from regular season crews. It's fascinating.

Exactly.

**Bearcat** · 01-27-2023, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

People are preemptively bitching about officiating without even knowing that playoff crews are different from regular season crews. It's fascinating.

The Chiefs could win the SB and people would cry about Cheffers reffing the first game next season.

And not complain in September, but the day after the SB, because the league will want to set the tone for 2023 because they hate the Chiefs and will make sure they don't win it all again.

Pepe Silvia · 01-27-2023, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

The Chiefs could win the SB and people would cry about Cheffers reffing the first game next season.

And not complain in September, but the day after the SB, because the league will want to set the tone for 2023 because they hate the Chiefs and will make sure they don't win it all again.

Eh the first game of the season wouldn’t bother me. Too early.

Wisconsin_Chief · 01-27-2023, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

The Chiefs could win the SB and people would cry about Cheffers reffing the first game next season.

And not complain in September, but the day after the SB, because the league will want to set the tone for 2023 because they hate the Chiefs and will make sure they don't win it all again.

Sure, and if they lose it again largely because of him (like they already have once) you will be here in September telling us all we are crazy for thinking he will screw us. Again.

-King- · 01-27-2023, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Sure, and if they lose it again largely because of him (like they already have once) you will be here in September telling us all we are crazy for thinking he will screw us. Again.

We lost a game where we scored 9 points and Mahomes was literally running for his life largely because of the refs?

Wisconsin_Chief · 01-27-2023, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

We lost a game where we scored 3 points and Mahomes was literally running for his life largely because of the refs?

He changed the entire tone of the game when he started handing Brady free points. The Chiefs were playing really well before Tyrann melted down after that pathetic penalty.

It's astounding to me that some of you don't think these players can't sense when they're getting hosed, and that it doesn't effect their mindset and the way the game progresses.

Whatever, it's not worth discussing. Just hope we are also not discussing it Sunday evening.

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