Video Games Total War fans, which game should I get?

htismaqe · 07-31-2018, 01:31 PM

Rome Total War is one of my favorite games of all time. I've played it for hundreds of hours and as such, have never really played any other Total War games.

I've got a pretty powerful machine now and want to test it out with a game. I'm wondering if I should check out Attila or not. If not, what game would you guys recommend in the series that is somewhat newer?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-31-2018, 02:18 PM

Last one I played was Medieval II. Loved it, but don't game on PC anymore. Good luck, bro.

htismaqe · 07-31-2018, 02:21 PM

I thought about Medieval II since it's cheap but it's essentially a re-skin of Rome and uses the same engine. I'm looking at Thrones of Britannia too, it just came out and looks intriguing.

Fishpicker · 07-31-2018, 02:25 PM

I've played them all except for Attila.

seems like Shogun2 taxes my PC the most, even more than TW:warhammer.

I recommend either of those 2 games. TWWarhammer is amazing and has great units/battles but the campaign is shit. TWSHogun2 has my favorite campaign (rise of the samurai) but the game has fantasy units that don't fit the historical setting.

no matter what TW game you decide on, you should look for mods and mod collections to iron out the gameplay issues that CA never got around to fixing.

Fishpicker · 07-31-2018, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I thought about Medieval II since it's cheap but it's essentially a re-skin of Rome and uses the same engine. I'm looking at Thrones of Britannia too, it just came out and looks intriguing.

you might as well buy Attila instead of MedII that runs on an old engine. if you want to play in a euro-medieval setting, just mod the Attila game

htismaqe · 07-31-2018, 02:38 PM

How hard is it to mod via Steam? I'm actually going to be playing through Steam on an iMac. I haven't played TW for a few years but I used to play XGM on Mac years ago and modding it wasn't that hard.

WhiteWhale · 07-31-2018, 02:46 PM

Good memories going back to the original Shogun total war.

As the game got older, less emphasis was put on the real time battles, and the games suffered.

I think the collision detection on Rome Total war was better than Shogun II or Empire... Not sure about Warhammer. Rome II's loading between the campaign map and battle screen was atrocious. Could just be my older PC though.

Fun games from back in the day. Not a fan of the direction they took it overall though.

WhiteWhale · 07-31-2018, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I thought about Medieval II since it's cheap but it's essentially a re-skin of Rome and uses the same engine. I'm looking at Thrones of Britannia too, it just came out and looks intriguing.

The battles engines do not improve going forward.

They built a whole engine around the musket warfare of Empire TW and they're still basically using it.

Melee battles are bizarre. Often times the animations of the unit matter more than their actual stats and ratings.

Even now I prefer my modded versions of Rome and Medieval 2.

htismaqe · 07-31-2018, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

The battles engines do not improve going forward.

They built a whole engine around the musket warfare of Empire TW and they're still basically using it.

Melee battles are bizarre. Often times the animations of the unit matter more than their actual stats and ratings.

Even now I prefer my modded versions of Rome and Medieval 2.

I would be playing Rome right now except the latest patch breaks most of the mods. Plus, I've played it to death. Maybe I'll just buy Medieval 2 and try it out.

WhiteWhale · 07-31-2018, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I would be playing Rome right now except the latest patch breaks most of the mods. Plus, I've played it to death. Maybe I'll just buy Medieval 2 and try it out.

I play with the Stainless Steel mod.

Adds some factions, balances things, new music, ect.

The one problem with Rome was the damn chariots broke the auto resolve so the Britons and Egyptians end up pwning everyone.

htismaqe · 07-31-2018, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I play with the Stainless Steel mod.

Adds some factions, balances things, new music, ect.

The one problem with Rome was the damn chariots broke the auto resolve so the Britons and Egyptians end up pwning everyone.

I didn't play much vanilla so the chariots weren't much of a thing. I played the XGM mod for hundreds of hours. But like I said, I played it to death and want something a little different.

Fishpicker · 07-31-2018, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

I think the collision detection on Rome Total war was better than Shogun II or Empire... Not sure about Warhammer.

it has been improved for warhammer. the units that get hit are the units that die off. missile volleys are improved too in that they land in a random spread. arrows no longer have laser sight accuracy.

TWWH has Sync Kills. these unique animations are synced with the individual(s) models instead of just effecting a group/unit

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

How hard is it to mod via Steam? I'm actually going to be playing through Steam on an iMac. I haven't played TW for a few years but I used to play XGM on Mac years ago and modding it wasn't that hard.

it's very easy for the 2 newest games. you subscribe to the mods using steam interface/menus. it does all the DL'ing and install. then, when I start the game, a game launcher wizard pops up. I select which mods are enabled in the launcher and start the game. steam also keeps everything updated and automatically downloads the latest patches for the mods.

htismaqe · 07-31-2018, 05:10 PM

Hmmmm, maybe I need to give Warhammer a try. It looks like it actually plays the best of all of them, it's just not a historical setting. Still kind of leery of signing up for Steam just for one game, I don't do a lot of PC/Mac gaming so it's just one more account to manage...

**Buck** · 07-31-2018, 09:10 PM

Shogun 2

Pants · 07-31-2018, 10:34 PM

I'm a huge fan. I have played every single one until the Warhammers.

You can't go wrong with either Shogun 2 or Rome 2. I have the first of the Warhammers in my Steam library and will be undertaking that one very soon.

07-31-2018, 01:31 PM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Total War fans, which game should I get? Rome Total War is one of my favorite games of all time. I've played it for hundreds of hours and as such, have never really played any other Total War games. I've got a pretty powerful machine now and want to test it out with a game. I'm wondering if I should check out Attila or not. If not, what game would you guys recommend in the series that is somewhat newer?
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07-31-2018, 02:18 PM	#2
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8009572	Last one I played was Medieval II. Loved it, but don't game on PC anymore. Good luck, bro. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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07-31-2018, 02:21 PM	#3
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I thought about Medieval II since it's cheap but it's essentially a re-skin of Rome and uses the same engine. I'm looking at Thrones of Britannia too, it just came out and looks intriguing.
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07-31-2018, 02:25 PM	#4
Fishpicker On one quarter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: I play all day Casino cash: $3327111	I've played them all except for Attila. seems like Shogun2 taxes my PC the most, even more than TW:warhammer. I recommend either of those 2 games. TWWarhammer is amazing and has great units/battles but the campaign is shit. TWSHogun2 has my favorite campaign (rise of the samurai) but the game has fantasy units that don't fit the historical setting. no matter what TW game you decide on, you should look for mods and mod collections to iron out the gameplay issues that CA never got around to fixing. __________________ A person who has been [ideologically] demoralized cannot assess true information. the [demoralization] process is complete and irreversible. -Yuri Bezmenov on Soviet Subversion
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07-31-2018, 02:38 PM	#6
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	How hard is it to mod via Steam? I'm actually going to be playing through Steam on an iMac. I haven't played TW for a few years but I used to play XGM on Mac years ago and modding it wasn't that hard.
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07-31-2018, 02:46 PM	#7
WhiteWhale Bring it on Ahab! Join Date: May 2011 Location: Doo-Dah Casino cash: $10015152	Good memories going back to the original Shogun total war. As the game got older, less emphasis was put on the real time battles, and the games suffered. I think the collision detection on Rome Total war was better than Shogun II or Empire... Not sure about Warhammer. Rome II's loading between the campaign map and battle screen was atrocious. Could just be my older PC though. Fun games from back in the day. Not a fan of the direction they took it overall though.
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07-31-2018, 05:10 PM	#13
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Hmmmm, maybe I need to give Warhammer a try. It looks like it actually plays the best of all of them, it's just not a historical setting. Still kind of leery of signing up for Steam just for one game, I don't do a lot of PC/Mac gaming so it's just one more account to manage...
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07-31-2018, 10:34 PM	#15
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