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Old 02-28-2024, 08:17 AM  
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Let's talk about the Nate Taylor monologue
Nate Taylor, on the most recently episode of Time's Ours Only Weird Games, said that the Sneed dynamic is a punishment for both the Chiefs and Sneed, despite the fact that both parties did everything right.

They drafted him, they developed him, they rostered him and played him.

He did everything they asked, he had zero off the field concerns, and played for them at an All Pro level.

And now, because the marriage between the parties was so successful, he likely has the leave the team and play elsewhere.

I was thinking this over. And I agree, this is a less than ideal situation for both teams -- sure Sneed gets paid, and the Chiefs likely get compensation. But the best outcome would have been for Sneed to stay in KC and get paid here. That's just structurally unlikely, however, because of the restriction of the salary cap.

I also think that maybe this is the least worst way we can approach the issue.

Maybe the league could carve out salary cap exceptions for players that a team drafts. Or maybe even that a team drafts on the third day, to reward both sides for their development and hard work.

What are your thoughts on this issue? How might you opt to resolve it?
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:34 AM   #31
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If Veach had offered Sneed 13-14 mil a year for 4 years last year Sneed signs it in a heart beat. It’s Veach’s one major flaw.

Now Sneed did take a gigantic leap, and he’s going to be glad he was never offered
How do we know he didn't?
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:37 AM   #32
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If Veach had offered Sneed 13-14 mil a year for 4 years last year Sneed signs it in a heart beat. It’s Veach’s one major flaw.

Now Sneed did take a gigantic leap, and he’s going to be glad he was never offered
There are rumors that the Chiefs intended to work on an extension with Sneed but the Jones thing prevented it.

Sneed was on such a low 2023 salary that it was going to be difficult to reach an extension that didn't yield 3-4 times the cap hit for them in 2023. After having already partially tapped the Mahomes contract (and having passed the time to get more from it) as well as having restructured Thuney, there just weren't enough levers left to be pulled.

Which is again to say - **** you, Katz brothers.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:39 AM   #33
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That's becoming a trend with that entire show.
It really is terrible. Taylor is bad.

There isn't a Chiefs show worth a shit to be honest.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:39 AM   #34
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The price of success. Bye bye.

We'll be having the same discussion about Chamari Conner in three years.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:40 AM   #35
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When you have an expensive QB you are not resetting the market for two players. Any team that does is being foolish and yes Jones 30 mil per would rest the market for DT's not named Donald.
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It really is terrible. Taylor is bad.

There isn't a Chiefs show worth a shit to be honest.
I've caught hell for saying Taylor isn't very good as a Chiefs insider. He's not a football guy, he's a writer whos in the right place.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:50 AM   #37
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Yeah that's just how a salary cap works and if we were fans of any other team it would be our only hope. Even losing Sneed, it's going to be really difficult for any teams to catch us this off-season. They need all the help they can get.
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Don't see how it's a punishment to the Chiefs. You get a guy in the fourth round that plays at a high level for 4 years, helps win a couple super bowls while playing for peanuts. Then you get first right to give him the bag he deserves or flip him for a higher pick then he was originally drafted.
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The price of success. Bye bye.

We'll be having the same discussion about Chamari Conner in three years.
Good point. However, we should also recognize that it is the price of a successful league structure. Major League Baseball is dying because they have concentrated all the power into a couple of cities that can outspend the rest of the league combined. The NFL has a successful salary cap structure that allows all of the teams to compete.

As fans of a Kansas City team, we are most definitely beneficiaries of a salary cap in the league. We may face the problem of losing players because we can't fit them into our salary cap, but the benefits far outweigh the problems here.
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I've caught hell for saying Taylor isn't very good as a Chiefs insider. He's not a football guy, he's a writer whos in the right place.
To be fair he followed Terez so those were some huge shoes to fill. Having said that he just doesn't seem to understand the business side or the Xs and Os part. That's a bad combination. In essence he's just a guy who hears rumors before we do. He obviously had zero insight into the Orlando Brown situation.
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This is the price of doing business... McDuffie is going to be the highest paid DB in the league in a year or two... you can't reset the market twice.

McDuffie > Sneed.


Get a top 50 pick and something else. Draft another corner - or bring in a vet like Xavien Howard and trust in Spags to do his thing.
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Good point. However, we should also recognize that it is the price of a successful league structure. Major League Baseball is dying because they have concentrated all the power into a couple of cities that can outspend the rest of the league combined. The NFL has a successful salary cap structure that allows all of the teams to compete.

As fans of a Kansas City team, we are most definitely beneficiaries of a salary cap in the league. We may face the problem of losing players because we can't fit them into our salary cap, but the benefits far outweigh the problems here.
Yep, good post.
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Good point. However, we should also recognize that it is the price of a successful league structure. Major League Baseball is dying because they have concentrated all the power into a couple of cities that can outspend the rest of the league combined. The NFL has a successful salary cap structure that allows all of the teams to compete.

As fans of a Kansas City team, we are most definitely beneficiaries of a salary cap in the league. We may face the problem of losing players because we can't fit them into our salary cap, but the benefits far outweigh the problems here.
^this^
The NFL won't allow teams like the Raiders, Steelers, NIners and Cowboys in the 70's and 80's keep their teams together. That what makes this run by the Chiefs that much more impressive. The cap doesn't only effect onfield play, but a team needs good solid back office to manage the cap and draft year in and year out. The Chiefs have decimated most teams in their execution of the rules/cap.
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It really is terrible. Taylor is bad.

There isn't a Chiefs show worth a shit to be honest.
KC Lab is good.
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It really is terrible. Taylor is bad.

There isn't a Chiefs show worth a shit to be honest.
I've enjoyed football way more when I stopped listening to all media regarding football. Its all speculation/sensationalist bullshit
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