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1980 Brett 20 23.53%
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:05 PM   Topic Starter
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The Best Ever Individual Season In KC Professional Sports History

After the amazing year by Mahomes, it made me wonder. Was this THE best ever season by any KC professional athlete in history?

Note, this covers the Chiefs and the Royals. One may want to raise Tom Watson in this and yes, he did win a pair of majors in both 1977 and 1982, but we're talking best individual season by a player on a professional sports team.

All due respect to DT's 20 sack season in 1990, Priest Holmes tremendous seasons in 2002 & 2003, Christian Okoye's NFL rushing best 1989 season, Joe Montans's memorable 1993 season or cripes, Larry Johnson's 2006 season, nobody had a better season than 2018 Patrick Mahomes. The crazy thing is if he stays healthy, he should have even better seasons than this year - heck, this season may not even rank in his Top 5 seasons when it's all said and done!

(I wasn't around for the Stram Era Chiefs but I don't think anyone had a season like 2018 Mahomes. Old timers feel free to chime in...)

So we go across the parking lot to the Royals. There was 2009 Zach Grienke. Not good enough. 1989 Bret Saberhagen, 1985 Bret Saberhagen? Good ones, but Mahomes was better. Maybe a 1987 Kevin Seitzer or a 1977 Al Cowens? Who are we kidding - it's not even close.

There's only ONE player who can really go toe to to toe with Mahomes and that's George Brett. Which season can compare to 2018 Mahomes? Well he did have awesome 1976, 1979, 1985 and 1990 seasons. Other than 1985, none of those other seasons could beat that. 1985 may have been Brett's best season overall, especially with it ending in a World Series Championship that he pretty much carried the Royals on his back to glory. His numbers were excellent but compare it to 2018 Mahomes and it falls short - not by much, but it does.

However, there was the 1980 Brett season - a season that was (like Mahomes this year) completely unreal.

A lot of you were not alive for that magical year and some of you may not even follow baseball that much, but let me tell you. It was off the charts amazing and the only thing comparable to 2018 Mahomes. Dare I say, it can be argued that 1980 Brett was even better than 2018 Mahomes.

Consider these numbers:

Brett finished at .390, leading the major leagues in average, on-base percentage (.454) and slugging percentage (.664). His 1.118 OPS was more than 100 points better than anyone else's that season.

And though he didn't hit .400 ...

• He hit .437 with 118 hits and six strikeouts in 270 at-bats against right-handed pitching.

• From May 30 to August 30 (a stretch that included a stint on the DL), Brett hit .470 (!) with 116 hits in 61 games (in which the Royals went 46-15). He hit .494 in the month of July.

• He hit .469 with 61 hits and five strikeouts with runners in scoring position.

• He hit .421 in the first five innings of games.

• He hit .425 with 22 RBIs in 10 games against the Yankees. That was foreshadowing for the postseason, when his three-run home run against Rich Gossage in Game 3 of the ALCS helped put the Royals into the World Series for the first ever time.

Those numbers are freaking ridiculous!

Mahomes by comparison had the 5,097 yards and 50 TD's passing (52 overall when you factor in the rushing TDs), Include the playoffs and he threw for 53 TD's and ran in 3 more.

The Chiefs offense scored 66 TD's in the regular season and 8 more in the playoffs for 74 TD's (that averages to more than 4 TD's PER GAME).

Twelve different Chiefs players caught at least 1 TD pass from Mahomes.

Mahomes only turned the ball over 16 times (12 picks, 4 fumbles) for the entire season including playoffs. That's 18 games, less than 1 a game.

Mahomes threw for at least 300 yards a total of 10 times this season. He had over 300 combined yards another 3 times. In the other 5 games, his lowest combined yardage total was 246 yards.

Both Brett and Mahomes led their teams to Divisional Championships.

Both Brett and Mahomes exorcised demons in the postseason (Brett finally overcoming the Yankees postseason jinx, Mahomes overcoming the Arrowhead playoff jinx and the Colts playoff jinx all in one).

Both Brett and Mahomes fell short in their quest to win a Championship but not by lack of trying (Brett batted .375 in the World Series and hit a HR in his very first home at bat, Mahomes put up 24 4th quarter points in the AFC Championship Game).

It makes for a fun argument, where there's really no right answer - just total dominance by what will be the two most popular professional athletes in Kansas City sports history?

If you had to choose one, who would you say had the best ever season?

1980 Brett or 2018 Mahomes?

Poll to follow...
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:10 PM   #2
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Old 02-15-2019, 05:13 PM   #3
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Brett sat a ton of games down the stretch to maintain the batting average. Mahomes didn’t. End of argument for me.

Edit: stupid autocorrect

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Old 02-15-2019, 05:15 PM   #4
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Mahomes played a full, grueling 16 game schedule

Brett only played in 117 baseball games

Clearly Mahomes
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:02 PM   #5
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Brett sat a ton of games down the stretch to maintain the batting average. Mahomes didn’t. End of argument for me.

Edit: stupid autocorrect
Brett missed June 11-July 9 and then September 7-16. Outside of those stretches, he played pretty much every day.

Mahomes is the right answer but we weren't really protecting Brett late in the season. He was hitting .400 on September 19 and actually played in games 148 through 161 from that point on.
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Old 02-15-2019, 08:08 PM   #6
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Brett missed June 11-July 9 and then September 7-16. Outside of those stretches, he played pretty much every day.

Mahomes is the right answer but we weren't really protecting Brett late in the season. He was hitting .400 on September 19 and actually played in games 148 through 161 from that point on.
He only played like 120 games that year. It was the hemorrhoids thing.
Great season, but I'd argue that '85 was his truly dominant year.
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Apples to Oranges.

Comparing hitting a 95mph/excellent junk thrown baseball on a regular daily basis to reading a defense and throwing a football in a tight window while 300lb+ guys are trying to kill you both of which are difficult to do. And why I say apples to oranges. Both were great seasons for sure.

Now with that said, I have not been this excited about a professional KC athlete since George Brett until the emergence of Mahomes.
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Brett missed June 11-July 9 and then September 7-16. Outside of those stretches, he played pretty much every day.

Mahomes is the right answer but we weren't really protecting Brett late in the season. He was hitting .400 on September 19 and actually played in games 148 through 161 from that point on.
Whether by hook or by crook Georgie played in 72% of games in 1980. If mahomes misses four games he doesn’t approach his numbers and we barely sniff the third seed.
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Whether by hook or by crook Georgie played in 72% of games in 1980. If mahomes misses four games he doesn’t approach his numbers and we barely sniff the third seed.
If Mahomes missed 4 games, we’d be no better than 10-6 and would possibly be out of the playoffs.

(The 6th seed Colts went 10-6).
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Brett sat a ton of games down the stretch to maintain the batting average. Mahomes didn’t. End of argument for me.

Edit: stupid autocorrect
I thought it was because he had hemorrhoids?
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Brett sat a ton of games down the stretch to maintain the batting average. Mahomes didn’t. End of argument for me.

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I'd go with Mahomes.

But Brett didn't sit to protect the average.

He injured his right thumb and missed 9 or 10 games in early/mid September.

The only games he missed "down the stretch" was the first game of a DH vs the Angels on 09/17. Still have the scorecard.I was there and I was pissed that Jim Frey held him out. I mean I paid $2.00 for a GA seat that day. But he played game two and went 2-5.

Jim Frey then held him out of game 162 in Minnesota.

Incredible season.

Like Brett did in 1980, Mahomes brought me so much joy. Hard to even describe. And I expect he'll give us all the ultimate joy, like Brett did in 85.
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I'd go with Mahomes.

But Brett didn't sit to protect the average.

He injured his right thumb and missed 9 or 10 games in early/mid September.

The only games he missed "down the stretch" was the first game of a DH vs the Angels on 09/17. Still have the scorecard.I was there and I was pissed that Jim Frey held him out. I mean I paid $2.00 for a GA seat that day. But he played game two and went 2-5.

Jim Frey then held him out of game 162 in Minnesota.

Incredible season.

Like Brett did in 1980, Mahomes brought me so much joy. Hard to even describe. And I expect he'll give us all the ultimate joy, like Brett did in 85.
I’ll confess that, as I was born in 1983, all I know of Brett’s 1980 season is what I’ve read and a ton of articles cite his sitting a lot to protect the average. I stand corrected and appreciate the insight
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Is KC more Chiefs or Royals town?

Kinda curious.
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Is KC more Chiefs or Royals town?

Kinda curious.
Lots of love for both but the population in KC will double exactly nine months after the Chiefs win a SB
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Lots of love for both but the population in KC will double exactly nine months after the Chiefs win a SB
Me being an outsider always felt like it was more of a Chiefs town
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