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Old 06-30-2020, 07:59 PM  
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:38 PM   #301
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I tell you all the time and over 15+ years I value your insight into players. Your top notch on this site. Without question, one of the best. But, Clowney? Your 4 points above I cant disagree with but if we do that deal, how do we fit Jones in there?
Jones signing long term = more cap space = enough cap space to sign Clowney to a 1 year deal.
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:46 PM   #302
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Jones signing long term = more cap space = enough cap space to sign Clowney to a 1 year deal.
Lol. Yeah that's going to happen
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:48 PM   #303
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I don't get the Clowney infatuation at all.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:23 PM   #304
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Clowney sucks. There is enough depth on DL when you factor in Jones.

Find a young stud at SS or another linebacker instead.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:33 PM   #305
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I don't get the Clowney infatuation at all.
It's not an infatuation. Just thinking about what they would do with the cap space that a Jones extension would free.

Maybe they just pick some up and roll it over.

Maybe they try to add a quality free agent. It's not just Clowney. He's the easiest/biggest name. But Everson Griffen is definitely in the $10 million/year price range and would be a nice addition on a short deal (rumors are he wants 2 years, though).

Logan Ryan would also provide some insurance at CB for Breeland's looming potential suspension.

Personally, I think Veach will be aggressive with that cap space. That seems to be his way.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:41 PM   #306
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If people want to know the impact Clowney could bring to our defense, they should look no further than the instant improvement Suggs brought to our line. As many have said, Clowney won’t bring us a 15 sack season, but he wouldn’t have to do that to make an instant impact on the defense.

The wild thing is that Clowney would be an improvement over Suggs at this point in their careers.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:51 PM   #308
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Suggs is a professional

Clowney is a guy who is mostly injured and has fed off a highlight tackle from college
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And his price tag is pretty damn high. Unless it's come down. And then that's not the best sign.

Just seems like there has to be better value out there.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:59 PM   #310
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5 years, $100M, $52M guaranteed

$30M signing bonus
KC pretty much offered this to Jones last year and he turned it down. Consistent rumors say he wants the Frank Clark deal and won't take anything less.
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KC pretty much offered this to Jones last year and he turned it down. Consistent rumors say he wants the Frank Clark deal and won't take anything less.
I get it, but that is gonna be hard to do. Other contracts coming up in a couple of years that will need to be done too.
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KC pretty much offered this to Jones last year and he turned it down. Consistent rumors say he wants the Frank Clark deal and won't take anything less.

Clark’s deal was 5/102 with less $$ guaranteed.


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5 years/$104/$62.3 guaranteed

(Not as drastic a difference as I thought, but more guaranteed)
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5 years/$104/$62.3 guaranteed

(Not as drastic a difference as I thought, but more guaranteed)

Weird. First thing I checked showed $42.3 guaranteed, but maybe that’s current state.

Anyway, you could increase the guarantee a bit to make it work better if needed. Still is pretty close to what it would take, IMO.
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