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**007** · 03:57 PM

To hell with all the superstitions. Go get that Lamar Hunt trophy. The time is now.

Bring it home Chiefs!!!

January 20, 2019
5:40pm CST kickoff
Arrowhead Stadium
Kansas City, MO

BleedingRed · 01-16-2019, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Luvva

Fair enough, to some degree. But their zone coverage had little to do with the NE run game eviscerating their D.

Also, in order to play man all day, you need to have the bodies and talent to cover all of the Pats' O weapons. Most teams don't have the talent to match up. Pay close attention Sunday to Edelman on his routes and you'll see what I mean.

It's easy to run vs SOFT ZONE, when your DB's are 10 yards off recievers and Linebackers are dropping 10 yard back into their zones at snap it opens lanes because the MLB's split.

That being said we are not great vs the run, hell we are not great vs alot of things. The key for us is going to be getting up early on you so our rushers can attack the pocket.

And while I think Edelman is good, the Chargers tried to rally to tackle, the keys for beating the Patriots are simple but hard to execute. You have to bring pressure up the middle, and play man.

Mix in occasional Zone Blitz, but that it.

RobertWeathers · 01-16-2019, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Well yes...........

7 teams have scored 40+ points on the Patriots since 2001. 3 of those 7 are from the Chiefs in last 5 years.

Soo........... Yeah that's kinda something to pay attention to.

That means nothing to me.

What does mean something to me is improving on how we defend Hill.

BleedingRed · 01-16-2019, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

That means nothing to me.

What does mean something to me is improving on how we defend Hill.

I mean can you really defend him. Sure you can double him, but he just happens to possess something that you can't or is incredibly hard to defend... Speed.

Not to mention if you double him it leaves you weak on the edges for running.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-16-2019, 09:38 AM

Forecast is looking a LOT better at the moment..

RobertWeathers · 01-16-2019, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Patriots won that game like they do most of their games, with offense. It's time to put to bed that BB will find a weakness in any QB. Tell that to Nick Foles, or Pat Mahomes, or even Alex Smith.

Who is telling you that is what the founding basis of a BB defensive gameplan?

PatsFannNH · 01-16-2019, 09:42 AM

Pats fan here. First of all I want to congratulate you all on a great season. It will be a great game on Sunday. What the Pats try to do (usually successfully) is to take away the opponents biggest weapon(s). I expect that will mean double coverage at times on Hill and an emphasis on keeping Mahomes in the pocket. Patrick Chung will be left to cover Kelcie pretty much one on one.

FringeNC · 01-16-2019, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

That means nothing to me.

What does mean something to me is improving on how we defend Hill.

Same thing happened 2014 pre-Hill. If you guys win, I expect to see a lot of highlights (lowlights) of our offensive line being manhandled. If you don't dominate the LOS, we will score a lot of points.

RobertWeathers · 01-16-2019, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

I mean can you really defend him. Sure you can double him, but he just happens to possess something that you can't or is incredibly hard to defend... Speed.

Not to mention if you double him it leaves you weak on the edges for running.

I have no idea if the NEP can stop Hill. He scares the crap out of me. The cat is deadly. I do have a good idea what they will try to do. Lots of mixed coverages, C1, C3, occasional blitz, Rush 2, 3. Rush 4, etc...

Y'all are scoring at least 4 TDs.

Are you assuming we would allocate Chung or our LBs to cover Hill? That won't happen.

Luvva · 01-16-2019, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed

To be fair, Patriots haven't held Chiefs below 27 points in 5 years........ So it's no hope, its a trend.

Those were all early season wins... perhaps you've noticed that Pats start the season slow and improve week to week.

PatsFannNH · 01-16-2019, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertWeathers

I have no idea if the NEP can stop Hill. He scares the crap out of me. The cat is deadly. I do have a good idea what they will try to do. Lots of mixed coverages, C1, C3, occasional blitz, Rush 2, 3. Rush 4, etc...

Y'all are scoring at least 4 TDs.

Are you assuming we would allocate Chung or our LBs to cover Hill? That won't happen.

Chung will be left to defend Kelcie. I think they will double Hill most of the time

RobertWeathers · 01-16-2019, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

Same thing happened 2014 pre-Hill. If you guys win, I expect to see a lot of highlights (lowlights) of our offensive line being manhandled. If you don't dominate the LOS, we will score a lot of points.

Agree.

Regardless of all the scoring, highlight reel TDs, etc. winning football comes down to two fundamental things.

Control the LoS
Don't turn the ball over.

The team that does those two things better than the other wins this game.

I noticed Mahomes has 9 fumbles this year. Ball security in cold weather for a QB is key. Hold that ball at shoulder level close to the chest.

DJJasonp · 01-16-2019, 09:52 AM

Anyone catch Inside the NFL last night - and catch Boomer's quick comment about "inconsistent officiating" in the Colts game (insinuating that the colts got bad calls)??

Later in the show when they were talking chiefs/pats, Boomer made a point to say the game may be dictated by whether or not the officials let the chiefs secondary "mug" the patriots.....and went as a far as to say (and show a clip) of Berry "mugging" Gronk in the opener last year.

Oh, the irony..........

Jerm · 01-16-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Anyone catch Inside the NFL last night - and catch Boomer's quick comment about "inconsistent officiating" in the Colts game (insinuating that the colts got bad calls)??

Later in the show when they were talking chiefs/pats, Boomer made a point to say the game may be dictated by whether or not the officials let the chiefs secondary "mug" the patriots.....and went as a far as to say (and show a clip) of Berry "mugging" Gronk in the opener last year.

Oh, the irony..........

All the national guys outside of a select few are in full Pats/Belichick/Brady slurp and suck off shill mode...

Imagine if we win and so does NO, we'll go through the same thing with Brees/Payton.

RobertWeathers · 01-16-2019, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PatsFannNH

Chung will be left to defend Kelcie. I think they will double Hill most of the time

Yep.

We'll mix it up on Kelce...KVN or High will chip him and Chung will pick him up. KVN might stay with him as well. Hes been real good in coverage lately.

Hill is a nightmare. Gilly will erase Watkins. Depending on down/distance and tendency JC/JJ/DMC will take turns on Hill with Duron sitting on the deep cut on playing CF

Dante84 · 01-16-2019, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp

Anyone catch Inside the NFL last night - and catch Boomer's quick comment about "inconsistent officiating" in the Colts game (insinuating that the colts got bad calls)??

Later in the show when they were talking chiefs/pats, Boomer made a point to say the game may be dictated by whether or not the officials let the chiefs secondary "mug" the patriots.....and went as a far as to say (and show a clip) of Berry "mugging" Gronk in the opener last year.

Oh, the irony..........

Yeah well, Boomer's best friend is Frank Reich, so...

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