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Old 03-03-2024, 11:32 AM  
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The Chiefs need to acquire their next star WR and LT of the future in this draft.



To the victor goes the spoils....

How damn fortunate we are to have a draft class like this, the year we need WRs and a LT of the future, despite picking at 32.

After this combine has unfolded, I'm convinced that Veach and Andy need to be aggressive about going and getting their guys at WR and LT.

Trade up twice if you have to. Flip all your damn later picks if you have to.

It is incredibly rare to have an opportunity to solidify two cornerstone positions like LT and WR in a single draft class picking from the Super Bowl champions slot. But, this is what the Chiefs are working with this year.

So, who do you want KC to grab if/when Veach does try to proactively make this happen?
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:42 PM   #46
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Rice had talent, but the reason he’s a massive hit so far is 1) going to the Chiefs and 2) his competitiveness and desire to be great/win

These WRs we’re discussing all have the talent to thrive in KC. But I want the guy who loves the game and is going to have that fire we see from Kelce and even Rice now.

Everything I’ve heard out of McConkey this week makes me think it could be him.
I’m warming up to the idea of McConkey as well. I noticed he’s a finance major who graduated in 3 years so gotta imagine he’s a pretty smart kid as well, which can’t hurt.
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:42 PM   #47
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Agree 100%. He does everything at a high level.

Natural hands catcher, can play inside or outside, has the speed to be a deep threat or run screens and is extremely smart. The kid embarrassed DB’s at the Senior Bowl showing off his route running skills that also embarrassed DB’s in the SEC.

This week solidified everything. Size is great, elite 40 and elite 10 yard split.

It’s funny bc everyone universally loved Rome Odunze being good at everything but when Ladd McConkey is good at everything he’s got a high floor
Lunch pail problems. I’m as guilty as anyone in this case. Have we compared him to Edelman yet?
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:43 PM   #48
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Unless Moore or Toney get traded there’s probably not room for a late round pick. They’re probably not giving up on Moore unless Mahomes is just flat out done. And KT is just dead money to cut right?
I’d probably just cut Toney no matter what.

He seems like a head case and simply can’t be on the field. You can’t trust that he won’t make a major negative play.

He has the unique ability to turn a wide open route with a pass hitting him in the hands into a turnover. It’s actually quite impressive.

I wouldn’t think we’d cut Moore, but didn’t we cut Speaks after 2 seasons? Wouldn’t be the first time Veach let a 2nd rounder go early.
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:44 PM   #49
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Rice had talent, but the reason he’s a massive hit so far is 1) going to the Chiefs and 2) his competitiveness and desire to be great/win


Not to mention that a large percentage of his touches were manufactured, let's not forget that.
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:45 PM   #50
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Looks like hell.

Also, there's a near 100% chance that we keep Watson and either Toney/Moore. And some chance that we keep all three. And we might even keep Hardman, limited as he is. Cheap labor and all that. With that in mind, personally, I'd rather not take a blind swing at Mooney becoming a decent WR.

If Sneed gets traded, Veach should use the extra cap space to get a real WR, up to $20 million/yr if that's what it takes.
I wouldn’t call a guy who had over 1000 yards with Mitch Trubisky and has been playing with a RB for a QB the past two years “a blind swing at becoming a decent WR”.
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:47 PM   #51
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I’d probably just cut Toney no matter what.

He seems like a head case and simply can’t be on the field. You can’t trust that he won’t make a major negative play.

He has the unique ability to turn a wide open route with a pass hitting him in the hands into a turnover. It’s actually quite impressive.

I wouldn’t think we’d cut Moore, but didn’t we cut Speaks after 2 seasons? Wouldn’t be the first time Veach let a 2nd rounder go early.
Id probably just float toney out for any conditional pick I can get. Next years seventh if he finishes the year on your team?
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Not to mention that a large percentage of his touches were manufactured, let's not forget that.
Kid is incredible on quick screens, and that’s a credit to him and his burst and physical run after catch style.

That being said, from the Bengals game on when they really started to let him play >80% of the snaps and built some plays around him, it was different. He was winning a lot at the intermediate level of the field. I think he can be what JuJu was with the backshoulder ball down field and it flashed - something he and Patrick need to rep all summer long.
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Old 03-03-2024, 01:52 PM   #53
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So who is our starting LT? Any chatter about bringing back Donovan Smith? He indicated somewhere that he was interested in playing for the Jets. Also someone posted that Nate (I think) indicated that they plan to roll with Wanya Morris.

It seems as least as important as our WR issue and there is very little discussion about it.
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"Most of his touches were manufactured"

Yea, and most of his yards were earned after the catch, where he led the league.
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Id probably just float toney out for any conditional pick I can get. Next years seventh if he finishes the year on your team?
Part of me wonders if they want to give him a final chance with a full training camp and a bit of a reset. I would have thought the popping off by Toney during the post season would have been the end of him. The team seemed to cover for him though and kept him in the tent so to speak. I assumed they just wanted to keep him off an opponents roster. Now that the season is done and he’s still on the team, I assume it’s because they want to give a final chance with a full TC or because they’re trying to get something for him, which makes sense. If the dude could put it together (mentally and health wise) he has talent.
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"Most of his touches were manufactured"

Yea, and most of his yards were earned after the catch, where he led the league.
I don’t know this for a fact, but I bet if you tracked his “manufactured catches” that they showed a decline as the season progressed and through the playoffs.
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I don’t know this for a fact, but I bet if you tracked his “manufactured catches” that they showed a decline as the season progressed and through the playoffs.
They clearly did, but Megatron doesn't watch games apparently.
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Rice had talent, but the reason he’s a massive hit so far is 1) going to the Chiefs and 2) his competitiveness and desire to be great/win

These WRs we’re discussing all have the talent to thrive in KC. But I want the guy who loves the game and is going to have that fire we see from Kelce and even Rice now.

Everything I’ve heard out of McConkey this week makes me think it could be him.
Can he catch the ball and be where he’s supposed to be when he is supposed to be there? If so he almost instantly becomes the second best WR on this team.
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I wouldn’t call a guy who had over 1000 yards with Mitch Trubisky and has been playing with a RB for a QB the past two years “a blind swing at becoming a decent WR”.
Yeah, as soon as the Bears picked up DJ Moore everyone sold their Mooney stock.

Nothing to with him. Bears offense made Moore the focal with some Kmet.
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They clearly did, but Megatron doesn't watch games apparently.
His evolution from game 1 to the SB was a thing of beauty. His development was handled fantastically, and the fact that he was able to develop the way that he did in year 1 of this offense was/is huge. But somehow because he didn’t come in and play like Jerry Rice from week 1 diminishes him. I don’t get it. The dudes year 1 stats were very similar to AJ Brown’s year 1 stats (also a second rounder)
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