Mock 12/26

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I see now that you’re Damien Williams price is lower than the Chiefs actual payment, but to be honest I always thought that this projection was a little cheap for him.

I think on the open market he may have gotten $5M per year (Dion Lewis last yr), or at least a guaranteed $4M per. Jerrick McKinnon even got $7.5M per year last free agency. So I actually thought the Chiefs got a good deal.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I see now that you’re Damien Williams price is lower than the Chiefs actual payment, but to be honest I always thought that this projection was a little cheap for him.

I think on the open market he may have gotten $5M per year (Dion Lewis last yr), or at least a guaranteed $4M per. Jerrick McKinnon even got $7.5M per year last free agency. So I actually thought the Chiefs got a good deal.

We have no idea yet if my price is actually lower or not. The deal was stated as 2 years max value of 8.1 million. That term "max" tells me the deal is laden with performance incentives. I'm fine with that.

Where I disagree with you is on his market value. He had zero market value when he came here because he had 4 years in the league averaging 3.6 yards per carry. He was lucky the Chiefs gave him a shot as a 3rd down receiving back. The fact that he has an entire 2 games of good production here doesn't mean the league was going to offer him 5 per year. Now, he could produce at that level going forward and I think the Chiefs, given this contract, expect that he has that ability.

I'm guessing the base deal is about 1 million per above my projection. We'll see where it ends up. I'm not elated by the contract and think it's significant risk by the Chiefs IF it's not about 50% performance incentives

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by kccrow

We have no idea yet if my price is actually lower or not. The deal was stated as 2 years max value of 8.1 million. That term "max" tells me the deal is laden with performance incentives. I'm fine with that.

Where I disagree with you is on his market value. He had zero market value when he came here because he had 4 years in the league averaging 3.6 yards per carry. He was lucky the Chiefs gave him a shot as a 3rd down receiving back. The fact that he has an entire 2 games of good production here doesn't mean the league was going to offer him 5 per year. Now, he could produce at that level going forward and I think the Chiefs, given this contract, expect that he has that ability.

I'm guessing the base deal is about 1 million per above my projection. We'll see where it ends up. I'm not elated by the contract and think it's significant risk by the Chiefs IF it's not about 50% performance incentives

It could be the case. I don’t really think too much about the Miami days with Williams because this is a guy who has shined ever since coming to KC, even in training camp to a great degree. Miami RBs have all struggled to produce at a high level for awhile now, I don’t know what the deal is. But he fits this offense in KC like a glove. And beyond the stats and on-field impact, I just love his attitude and physicality. He plays with a massive chip on his shoulder.

You’re probably right on the contract. Probably one of those things where if he makes $8.1M, he’ll have damn well earned it and then some.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Let’s go ahead and pull the June 1 cut on Berry.